@Pat If you can directly measure the effect of the ozone situation on the weather, using the laws of physics, then you are a miracle worker. However, the ozone is affected by surface temperature.
@hasmis sudden stratospheric warming events actually do have an impact on surface weather conditions, but are also caused by tropospheric conditions. More detail from NWS: https://www.weather.gov/bis/sudden_stratospheric_warming_events
@ingalls That's possible, but unmeasurable, because the effect would be below noise of the surface influences. Nobody can separate that in my alternate physics dimension, but it is a common thing for influencers to say the butterfly can turn the hurricane. :) All things are possible....
@hasmis Oh I’m not saying it isn’t being blown out of proportion by the clickbait crowd, but SSWs have been a useful tool for us in the Pacific Northwest to predict lowland snow events 2-3 weeks out.
The earliest mention I remember of it associated with a forecast was 2019. SSWs are caused by, and then further disrupt, the wave pattern on the southern edge of the polar vortex (another term that is clickbaited into oblivion).
@ingalls Yeah, it's probably a good flag. I would think it is hard to separate an energy event on the surface, having an effect on the stratosphere. So far, in my physics world of one, I see massive energy events that follow the laws of physics. I put Occam's razor away for now, too sharp and deadly. :)
@hasmis
>"Nothing in the stratosphere can influence weather on the surface."
You mean like the ozone layer?