@freemo its an unbelievable shit what people do to each other because of religion.

@generationX

What they are doing to eachother has very little to do with religion, even though it may appear that way ont he surface.

@freemo @generationX

Totally agree.

Even the Crusades were really more about trade routes than religion. If everybody there turned suddenly atheist, this would be continue the same way.

If retaliation were to make something right, they would have been at peace at least for 50 years by now.

@jgg @freemo I strongly disagree. Almost all conflicts in the world are fired with religion. Without stupid religious feelings the fire would stop burning. Maybe people will find different reasons but for now its religion.

@generationX @freemo

History shows religion as a mixed bag. Sometimes, reinforces conflicts, sometimes, deflate them and even unify peoples.

Wars are always about economy: land, resources, workforce, political power...

Politicians have used religion as any of the other tools they have to lead/fool people: nations, revenge, fear, ancient grievances, false fatherhoods...

@jgg @freemo it a nice view that religion was used by the powerful, the bad to control people. The small little innocent religion. But what else would they use without the existance of religion?

@generationX @freemo

Fear. Nationalism. Revenge. Ethnicity. Ancient grievances. Imperialism. Political differences. Fear of communism. Fear of losing natural resources to external forces. Revolution. Terrorism. The list continues...

Look at Ukraine. Their religion was exactly the same a year ago. Or most of wars in South America. Or in Africa. Or at the First and Second World Wars.

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@generationX @freemo

Another example was the Roman Empire. They made war on the Greek, and then adopted their religion. We can assume religion wasn't an issue. And then they made the same with Palestine. And they keep their religion and customs untouched, and later adopted a derivation of their religion. No religion issues, I assume.

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