@Peritocaligrafo Entiendo que va con ironía, porque no es eso lo que dice el texto ni lo que dijo Dyson.
@trinsec You're absolutely right. I was referring to the latter case.
Guapo hilo:
Another bad advice to newbies I'm seeing much too often is to crosspost to Twitter.
If you're going to do that, it will hurt your Fedi engagement, because it's very easy to notice it (e.g., non-clickable mentions, not answering to replies, etc.) and comes out as not being fully commited. The implication is that you're only here to sell us your crap and if you had to choose, you'd keep your Twitter account and leave, which is fine. As fine as it is to unfollow you, which is what I'm going to do right now.
@ERDonnachie I never said that. What I did _imply_ was that it comes out as rude and ungrateful to ask for help with a problem and, when offered a solution, just dismiss it as “too complex”.
You could have just said: “I'll look that up”, and I would have replied with an honest: “If you run into any problems, just message me and I'll do my best to guide you through the process”.
If you want to adapt anything to your own way of doing things, you'll run into complexities. That's a fact of life. Even on Twitter, everybody complains at every little UI modification, but, after a while, they keep using it like nothing happened.
In your particular case, all you had to do was change instances to get quote-posts. Is that really so complicated? You already registered at least once here. It's the exact same process for any other instance. You don't even have to close your current account if you're not sure about the move. Having alts (i.e., alternative accounts for different use cases or just to try other instances) is common here. Where is the complexity?
@rival La Wikipedia, por lo visto: https://wikiless.tiekoetter.com/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine?lang=es
@avore_mem Entiendo que va con límite de caracteres, pero podría haber mencionado a Julian Assange también. Sin él es muy posible que los demás jamás hubieran dado el paso.
Por cierto, Seth Rich: asesinado.
@ERDonnachie By the way, @bonifartius just used Markdown there to quote me. We can also use LaTeX syntax for writing math. And you may have noticed that I write a lot, because our character limit is much bigger.
See? Options. They're not complex to use at all. You're not even forced to use them, either. They're just there, at your disposal.
1. That was not a quote-post. We have real quote-posts in qoto. That was just a link. I'm not holding that against you, by the way. Being on Mastodon you have no way to distinguish between the two. Hence why I suggested moving somewhere else if you really needed that feature.
2. I can't see what's so hard about opening a browser, but, as a piece of advice you won't take, you can safely use the browser on your phone to access Mastodon. The web UI is said to be (I haven't checked, so don't quote me on that) mobile friendly. Unfortunately, there are no perfect apps for the Fediverse, as far as I know.
Again, you can try different instances and different platforms. It's not that hard, but you have to accept that with a greater power comes greater responsibility, that is, with more options at your disposal, more complexity is added. That is inevitable. What you crave is not being given any options, so that everything is easy and familiar again, but that's not the Fediverse way. We crave options and freedom, and with them come the responsibility to use them correctly and the need to stay informed about them.
Tools are constantly getting better and easier, but they're being written mostly by passionate hobbyists in their free time. We're also willing to help as much as we can, but if you will not put in at least some effort, I'm sorry to say that Twitter is where you belong.
@ERDonnachie They only remain inaccessible if you're lazy. A lot of people has worked their asses off to give you alternatives (both inside Fedi and to mainstream social media). If you're not willing to do your part, that's on you. A lot of us are even willing to give you the necessary information, but we can't push the buttons for you.
@ERDonnachie Sorry for giving you freedom and choices.
@ERDonnachie What @atomicpoet is struggling not to say is that there are other platforms, like Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey and many more, that have quote-posts and plenty of other features different from Mastodon (bigger character limit, use of Markdown, emoji reactions...) and still interact perfectly fine with each other. That's why it is called the Fediverse.
My point is, you don't need to waste time complaining about Mastodon's shortcomings if that feels unproductive and frustrating to you. You can migrate to other platforms that use the same protocol but have the features you actually want. You're not the first one complaining about quote-posts. That discussion has been going on for years now.
@euklidiadas Pues, de hecho, está petado. En mi instancia hay un montón de gente que escribe en chino, pero ni idea de qué hablan, la verdad.
I think I just realised why, in every wave, most people leave in a few days. It is because a majority of them are lurkers, even on Twitter, so they expect to come here and read instead of interacting with us and creating new conversations. If they can't find their favourite topic, they will dismiss us as just ‘programmers’ and ‘tech people’ and go away.
Take my advice: we're not one-dimensional beings that only know about, or are interested in, one field. We just might not talk about, I don't know, architecture if we're not prompted, so why don't you start that conversation yourself? Why don't you publish some pictures you'd like to discuss? We appreciate beauty and intelligent conversation. We're human beings.
Existing Mastodon users (I don't consider qoto to be Mastodon: qoto is Mastodon without the stupid) are also responsible for this behaviour, because a lot of them are pro-censorship, and, thus, do their worst to keep a significant part of Fedi invisible to newcomers, so that they're reduced to a tiny echo chamber instead of being free to explore the whole thing. “No, don't go there. It's full of bad people! And if someone looks at you funny, tell your admin immediately, so they go nuclear on their instance. Don't try to mute or block them yourself. That's not the Mastodon way!”
I am, without a doubt, the most interesting person I know.