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I totally buy that attitudes between the sexes is an important contributor to, well behavior. So that a negative attitude by men towards women, or feelings of entitelment or superiority can contribute to sexual assault would not be surprising.

But if you look at the comments, many men (I assume they are men) react very negatively to the use of the term "toxic masculinity". Also not surprising, nobody wants their identity conflated with toxicity. I wonder: given the contents of the article, shouldn't feminists consider *not* actively alienating and marginalizing men? Isn't this kind of chauvinist language a contributor to those attitude the author claims causes sexual assaults? Why not give the angry incels free alcohol too while you're at it?

@ketil I agree entirely. The irony is when you talk to someone who uses the term "Toxic Masculinity" and agree with them but also point out similar examples of "Toxic Femininity" they tend to get pretty mad at you. Not a very conducive approach to solving these sorts of problems IMO.

@freemo What seems to be absent, is a discussion of what non-toxic masculinity is. Not sure what to think of Jordan Peterson and his Jungian therories, but he divides the male and female into a dark and light side. But in the current climate, too often masculinity is nothing else than toxic, and femininity is likewise presented as frail and weak, without agency.

@ketil While I do agree that masculinity is often seen as exclusively toxic I'm not sure I agree feminine has the same problem as always being portrayed as frail. While I agree that is one common narrative I would say I often hear about feminine strength as well.

Regardless I would agree it is a problem on both sides.

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