The "Respects Your Freedom" certification program encourages the creation and sale of hardware that will do as much as possible to respect your freedom and your privacy, and will ensure that you have control over your device. u.fsf.org/3g0

@fsf Respect Your Freedom is bullshit that actively sabotages Open-Source Hardware development through endorsement of proprietary developers like librem who refuse to release the relevant hardware files despite their CEO promising to do so years ago[source.puri.sm/Librem5/communi]

Stick to software and hug off from hardware you are not qualified to make any kind of polities there

@kreyren @fsf So, you are not happy because they provide schematics and files to mod the case but didn't open up there business for push button clones form china by providing the files needed for the fab. In my book, they respect my ownership if I buy there product and I respect there right to have a chance to make back there investment and maybe even have some profit to keep existing.

@dgr @fsf i am unhappy that i can't modify the hardware to fit my computing or when it breaks to just open KiCAD and know exactly why e.g. like with OLIMEX (github.com/OLIMEX).

Librem made their investment back multiple times already [git.dotya.ml/kreyren/kreyren/i]

Saying that librem respects your ownership is insanity, because they really don't

@kreyren @fsf Maybe I misunderstand but the schematics like file:///home/dgr/Downloads/librem5_mainboard_schematic.pdf are what's needed to fix problems and modding the hardware the CAD and Gerber files are what you need to oder 100'000 copies from the fab in china.

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@dgr @fsf Also you don't really need to order the PCBs from china i am in czechia and i have lot of options to make the PCBs locally either in hacker/makerspace where there are the tools needed to make multi-layer PCBs or through hiring a professional company like zebrapcb that makes them in house for me in general the TERES-1 boards are 8 layer PCBs that cost 180~250 EUR per 5.

OLIMEX is making the pcbs in bulgaria where they get better fabrication cost (due to their automotive industry) compared to china and similar cases across the EU.

@kreyren @fsf I was mentioning china because there disregard for intellectual property and willingness to flood the market with a clone and thus killing the company that produced the original and was nice enough to provided all the files for the fab. See Rossmann about Framework. This is a real fear for companies like them.

@dgr @fsf It's really the company's fault if they have a business plan that is vulnerable to other companies making the same design as there are professional services with CNC machines that take all of the components off of the PCB, remove the solder mask and then slowly remove layer by layer to take high resolution pictures to make their own design such as in china and like if you have a precise enough CNC then you can do that yourself it's not really difficult to do..

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