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@louiscouture they are a bit confused but have the right spirit.
@louiscouture HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Somewhere along the lines the right wing became anti-corporate and the left became hardcore "social justice capitalist". The left is undoubtably everything old Socialists would have fought to prevent. They still have the same old "feel" of course- the feel that leftists are peaceful, anti-war, anti-authority, anti-corporate, and righties are conservitard oligarch RINOs. Obviously nothing could be farther from the truth.
You can see the shift with the rhetoric of right wing figureheads today. Always arguments and attacks against international finance, corporate oligarchs, and actual oppression. Now you see why corporate supports the left.
Somewhere along the lines the right wing became anti-corporate and the left became hardcore "social justice capitalist". The left is undoubtably everything old Socialists would have fought to prevent. They still have the same old "feel" of course- the feel that leftists are peaceful, anti-war, anti-authority, anti-corporate, and righties are conservitard oligarch RINOs. Obviously nothing could be farther from the truth.
You can see the shift with the rhetoric of right wing figureheads today. Always arguments and attacks against international finance, corporate oligarchs, and actual oppression. Now you see why corporate supports the left.
@louiscouture I still don't understand why everything gets hated on so much as soon as only the terms "marxist" or "socialist" or "communist" are involved
As if these people would only care for names, not for the ideas behind them
Weird
As if these people would only care for names, not for the ideas behind them
Weird
@duponin @louiscouture I wasn't even living yet during cold war (except for if you'd say that the cold war never really ended)
Why do people hate something based on a name when they actually want that what the name is standing for??
Why do people hate something based on a name when they actually want that what the name is standing for??
@duponin @louiscouture we obviously learned about Germans past with the DDR but it never was communism = bad but rather dictatorship and violent repression = bad 
@fluff @louiscouture @duponin Well might help that Germany had both of the crap…
I think in France it's quite too close to the nazi = bad, stalin = screwed up.
Which is probably quite the other way around in America :(
I think in France it's quite too close to the nazi = bad, stalin = screwed up.
Which is probably quite the other way around in America :(
@lanodan @fluff @louiscouture the USA would never have a communist political party, unlike in France
@duponin @lanodan @fluff @louiscouture Uh the DSA. They literally go around calling one another comrade.
@duponin @lanodan @fluff hmm they do actually https://cpusa.org
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@duponin @fluff @louiscouture i learnt that during the cold way the US was all-out in an anti-soviet (and by extension anti-commie) propaganda...
...but via osmosis on the internet, we barely covered that in history class :⁾;;
...but via osmosis on the internet, we barely covered that in history class :⁾;;
@duponin @fluff @louiscouture (to be clear, this is me complaining about how lacking classes were lol)
@fluff might be something to do with marxists and communists putting people in gulags or causing mass famines. I mean, if nazis are universally hates, why wouldn’t an ideology that had caused even more deaths be hated too?
@louiscouture I guess that's the only way to do it in America.
@louiscouture - not sure about Marxism in big tech corps but they are surely totalitarian and oppressive. Be it Marxism, Communism, or Nazism doesn't matter as it's a label.
