The Best #Linux Distributions Without systemd
https://www.howtogeek.com/713847/the-best-linux-distributions-without-systemd/
@lupyuen As someone who's entrypoint to Linux was Ubuntu (after messing around with things like dsl, puppy, and other stuff); can anyone explain to me why systemd is so dang devisive? Is there genuinely anything technically wrong with it, or is it just another vim vs emacs thing?
@mzan haha yep Mastodon is great! 🙂
@popolon @lupyuen yes, probably you know better than me. Thanks and sorry for the FUD.
I'm rather sure that in the past there were problems with Systemd and syslog integration, as reported here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9359167 but they are mainly bugs, probably nowdays resolved, and not defect by design, so you are right.
A possible "defect by design" is the fact that Systemd in any case want to be the first logging service in the pipeline, and then it can redirect to other syslog daemons. But obviously if the code is not a disaster, it should not introduce new problems, because you can disable journalctl heavy operations, and then Systemd will do only a very simple redirect.
On Hacker News there were regular posts against Systemd, written by administrators. It seems that it tried to do too much, and too fast, introducing some incompatibilities, and not being rock-solid in its implementation. So it generated some hate, because it solved problems already well managed by experienced administrators, but introducing new bugs and integration problems.
Probably nowdays the benefits are more than the left problems. I don't know in details because I administer only few servers, and I'm mainly a programmer.
In any case, indipendently from Systemd, the task to init a system and services is a very complex one, and a tool cannot cover all possible usage scenario. In extreme cases I think that there will be devop tools, with a minimal Systemd automation.
@lupyuen thanks! I'm studying different fediverse/P2P tools. Now I have doubts... if I hello to you, I'm using Mastodon as a chat, and is this good? 🙂
As Twitter alternative it seems rather good.