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"GNOME and KDE organizations are working on a proposal to crowdsource a big change in Flathub: to make it an app store for – including for paid software"

theregister.com/2023/02/27/fla

@lupyuen One more reason not to use flatpak. And don't support it in own software.

@nwgpiotr @lupyuen Agreed, don't like the idea of paid software in my FOSS operating system. Donation options sure, but not paid software. Leave that to third party stores that the user must choose to install (such as Steam).

@CalcProgrammer1 @nwgpiotr @lupyuen I don't think it is a bad idea to have paid software in and of itself. Does libre software always have to be free even if that would be to the detriment of say the dev that made the program?

Earning some money can be a motivator to maintain said program.

I don't see a problem with paid software on linux. It actually might help adoption

@stefan @CalcProgrammer1 @lupyuen

The owner of the store will earn twice on developers: by charging % of sales & by offering paid recognition in the store. Indie devs will be unable to afford promotion, so their stuff, paid or not, will remain invisible from behind of the promoted ones. Do we want a Google Play clone on Linux?

Also: I prefer 1 sponsor, who supports me occasionally with $100, because they want & can, to 100 users, worth of $1 each, but with high expectations of paid software.

@nwgpiotr @CalcProgrammer1 @lupyuen Thank you for giving some insight in the arguments. Was just generally curious why people are against it. Gives some ideas to think about

@lupyuen People who know me know i'm definitely happy about, and have been advocating for this for awhile.
If you don't want to buy applications or games (outright, no IAP's), you are free not to, if you don't want others to buy applications or games, I really don't think it effects you.
What it does effect, is interest and growth in Linux as a valid option for non-developers and 'normal' users.
People should understand what a Duopoly is, and how and why they're inherently bad.

I was talking about this just a couple weeks ago with some friends @lupyuen , I know that many people will be against it, but one of the things that are keeping developers away from developing for Linux, I think* that is they do not see the gain in doing it.. The average Linux user expects apps to be free, but if this keeps people from releasing apps on Linux, then I prefer to have the option to buy those apps.. As I already do with various of them.

Personally, I am happy that some applications from Blackmagic, Foundry, NeatVideo, SideFX, Unreal Engine and others are available on Linux upon license acquisition. They generally use RLM license software, which is quite expensive and requires some work...

The fact they might open the possibility to sell software to everybody on flathub, is a bless for me... even better if a small donation is sent to FOSS software used to make that very sell, possible. Look at the Blender Market, when you buy certain plugins, you also donate to the Blender Foundation and this helps a lot!

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