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@mssunshine I actually agree with Musk here.. Democratic president and republican congress is a far better combination then democrats on both sides. Neither party is trust worthy or ethical and both parties are extremist in nature. By having two different parties on either side it helps us meet in the middle rather than subscribe to either extremist end of the spectrum.
@freemo Our rights are being plucked away one by one, especially women's rights. We need Roe to be codified but we can't with resistance from the right. Furthermore, these MAGA election denier candidates aren't even willing to play fairly. They'll accept the results only if they win.
@mssunshine I cant argue with you about the many flaws of the republicans.. they are a horrific, extremist, and destructive bunch... the problem is for every legitimate criticism of the right there is an equally bad criticism about the left that is just as extremist.
If we are really against extremism then we should be voting third party and be donen with the two parties. However if we insist on voting for one of the two parties then at the very least keep them balanced so the extremism of both sides balance out somewhat.
@freemo More parties would be interesting but it eventually comes down to two. Then, you pick the winner. As for extremes, how do you rid of them? These MAGA folks are infiltrating our government, law enforcement, etc. It seems that Dems care more about the We (inclusion). Repubs are more about Me - we'll embrace you...only if you think, act and live like us.
@mssunshine It never "comes down to two" .. there are several on the bailot, we vote for who we think is best. Its not a race, voting happens all at once.
How we rid ourselves of extremism in the populationn isnt an easy answer.. its a social answer. We raise our kids, and pick what behaviors we think are acceptable based onn if they are extremist vs if they are trying to find a healthy middle road. But most importantly you shun it when you see it inn your own groups and parties and not just when its the other side.
When maga folks do something extreme, call them out, whenn you see democrats do the same, call them out. Dont let it slide just because its extremism that supports your side... when we do that then we will start seeing healthy dynamics again. But it will take time and the solution has to go far beyond the voting booth and into our every day lives.
@freemo I like your tempered view. Listening, compromise, working things out are good ideals. But, when a partisan judge wakes up one morning and says, "I'm going to overturn Roe" because it goes against my (bias) principles." He thumbed his nose at a 50 year precedent and lied about agreeing that it's settled law. SCOTUS isn't the trusted institution it has been. That too needs to be addressed.
@freemo Thank you for chatting with me. It's been interesting and pleasant. I wish more of this type of exchange would occur. ๐
@mssunshine I have enjoyed hearing your take on it too, its a great convo. I appreciate that we can talk about such difficult topics maturely. I always found it was one of my favorite things about QOTO, the level of maturity we have when conducting these conversations.
@mssunshine The truth is, they didnt overturn roe because it goes against their biased principles. They had legitimate legal reasons to do so.. im not saying its a good thing, we NEED to protect abortions. But the truth is Roe v Wade was **never** the proper way to protect abortions because its legal foundations were highly questionable and weak and was overthrown onn legitimate legal grounds.
That said what we need, what we always needed, was actual explicit federal legal protection of abortion. A supreme court case is not the proper place for that. Id go so far as saying we need an amendment to protect it.
we can be upset that abortions arent federally protected anymore, and we **should** be upset at that. But we have to recognize what we are really upset with, Roa v Wade was a cheat to get that protection, what is upsetting is that we cant agree enough as a nation to manage to pass it as a amendment as it should be. We should be upset that there is division on the topic at all. But lets not attack the judges for making the decision that legally speaking is the way the system is designed to work. The supreme court does NOT and should not make laws, it was never their job in the first place.