@rmx @freemo I know two men with moderately but clear gay accent and manner, but they are married with children. In their case it is probably innate or acquired from very early age. I doubt that they started acting in this way deliberately.

So, I suppose that we can born with this accent/manner (i.e. it is one of the many configuration of our brain), and that it is more common in gay men.

Culture can amplify some patterns, but there is usually also a biological reason. Like male and female manners.

@mzan @rmx

Is it possible they are bi and just happened to settle down with a woman i wonder?

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> Is it possible they are bi

Everything is possible, especially considering that Marlon Brando and Freddy Mercury, two men with 100% masculine manners, were bisexual. So, how can I answer NO!? :-)

More seriously I believe that many men and women are potentially bisexual, but they don't (want) know this, because they have strong preferences towards the opposite sex, and they have no interest into risking moral judgment from the society. Think to what happens in prisons between men, that probably will have no homo-sexual behavior or fantasies outside of it.

I believe also that a feminine manner or a masculine manner (within certain margins obviously) in a man, is not a a reliable way to predict his sexual choices, in the sense that there can be many exceptions.

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@mzan

I think you are right that due to societalnpressures many men supress and may not know they are bi. That said i do think the overwhelming majority of straight men are straight. Just looking at the animal kingdom as an example shows that. While gay and bisexual animals in almost every species are common in those cases the straight members tend to show consistently straight mating behaviors.

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@freemo

For men it can be. For women it seems that "no woman is totally straight"

In this study bbc.com/news/health-34744903 they showed video of attractive men and women, to women.

68% of gay women were mostly aroused only from video of their preferred sex (i.e. women), while only 28% of straight women were mostly aroused only from video of men, i.e. 72% of straight women find arousal also video of other attractive women.

So only 32% of gay women are potentially bisexual, towards the 72% of straight women.

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@mzan

Women totally lean less towards straight, no doubt. But it seems 28% of straight women are still purely straight based on those numbers.

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@freemo

Yes fair point. The title of the link is (at least partially) a clickbait.

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@freemo

> But it seems 28% of straight women are still purely straight based on those numbers.

... or maybe what the study does not tell, it is that the remaining 28% of straight women are not aroused at all also from men :-)

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@mzan

Seeing ad they didnt use any of my naughty photos for the study this seems entierly likely.

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