MZan @mzan@qoto.org

@freemo a kalashnikov - if you are attacked by the human who put the knights armor on the bear 🙂

@freemo @deegeese It is sad to say, but it is unlikely that you can defend yourself with a gun against a mafia killer. He has too much advantage because he can decide when to shoot. In any case keep the gun. It can help.

Probably a better strategy is writing about your experience, keep us informed, inform your friends and give them access to your account in case someone kill you. If the mafia knows that if someone kill you, there will be a lot of publicity about the actors you accused, they can be "scared" of the consequences. Mafia does not like media exposure.

@solidsanek I voted Rat, but you are giving a platform to "Cats" party and I'm not feeling safe 🙂

@freemo Now we laugh, later we will fight against this proposal, then they win 🙂

@amcooper I don't write many Lisp code, but I started with Racket because it has a very good documentation and many interesting libraries. But then I switched to Common Lisp because it has a live/interactive programming environment, and it is very fun/addictive to use. It is easy entering in the zone, using CL.

But every Lisp dialect has its benefit. For example you can make money working on Clojure, and it is an acceptable Lisp. Guix has less libraries than Racket, but it has an acceptable live environment.

Scheme in general is more elegant than CL, but it lacks interesting features like CLOS, MOP, and advanced error management.

My two cents are: if you want to replace C++ with a Lisp, then CL; if you want to replace Java, then Clojure.

@edfattell Church of Emacs is a religion where you had to work on Sunday because you spent the rest of the week customizing and adoring it 🙂

@dajb short version answer: https://mastodon.social/@samim/109451202603050701

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@dajb The best persons I ever meet, "act professionally", without "acting professionally". They work in the best possible way, but showing their true personality. They are not robots. They are good coworkers, customers or "service providers", because you have both professional work, but with a human touch and a rather sincere feedback. They try to put in your shoes for solving your problem, and you understand if there are things to solve on your side. In this way, it is more difficult that problems escalate to unmanageable levels.

The difficult thing is how to "react professionally" when there are unresolvable personal problems between people. In this case, if there is no hope to find a solution, I start acting professionally, reducing at minimum the possibility of rage, but becoming fake. Also the other will notice this, but no problem at all. We must coexist with damage limitation.

@joelle I cannot follow you. This study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/ suggests that selection criteria are useful because regrets are very low, 1%. And you said initially that the regrets in the wild west of breast augmentation is 20%. So this is already a proof that some regolumentation is beneficial.

We can discuss if the 20% of regrets are linked also to the low quality of some surgeon, and not only to patients not knowing really what they want. But, the difference is rather large.

@joelle the study suggests that the mental approval process is beneficial, because there is a low regret rate. They say:

> We believe this study corroborates the improvements made in regard to selection criteria for GAS.

So the low regret rate is the effect of the selection criteria.

One can discuss about how to determine if the selection filter is too much stringent, but not that it is not useful.

@amszmidt @louis@emacs.ch
> The only programming languages who have this dumb ass discussion is Lisp and Scheme.

Is Delphi a (dialect of) Pascal? Is VisualBasic a Basic? Is Self a Smalltalk? Yes and no.

Scheme is a "list processing" language, with macros. It is heavily inspired to Lisp, but it is also rather different. Hence, informally, it is called a language of the family of Lisp-like languages. Shortly, "a Lisp".

Scheme is not Lisp. I agree. But it is a language on the same family. So it is only a "war of terms". "a Lisp", "a dialect of Lisp", etc...

@akater @louis@emacs.ch @amszmidt BTW, Haskell is not a Lisp, and I never read this. Instead, I read often "R is a Lisp" and "Ruby is a Lisp". Apart this, I mainly agree with your comment.

@louis@emacs.ch @amszmidt

> Clearly, as an enlightened Lisper, you must be aware that JavaScript is a Lisp-1?

It starts to become a too much enlarged family for my taste. Now I suspect that JavaScript has Lisp as parent-1 and Java has parent-2 😃

@amszmidt @louis@emacs.ch Scheme is *a Lisp* in the sense that it is a dialect of the "Lisp family" of programming language.

Scheme is *not Lisp* in the sense that it is not a direct successor of Lisp 1.5, MacLisp, Interlisp, ..., Common Lisp.

Obviously, the meaning of the word Lisp in "it is a Lisp" and "it is Lisp" is different.

@mousebot @schmudde @evanwolf

Lisp syntax is weird, but: it is incredibly extensible, hence you can add your own domain specific language or paradigm; you can navigate quickly in Lisp code; with time it becomes readable.

Nowadays, Clojure is used successfully in many commercial projects.

@SallyStrange@strangeobject.space @freemo

> this is how fascism wins. By convincing people like you that organic expressions of outrage at fascism ARE fascism.

Or maybe this is like totalitarianism wins: when you believe that a discussion about Trump is important because it will affect the fate of USA.

If you read 1984 of Orwell, there are suspects that all these wars between Democratic Party and Republican are mainly a weapon of mass distraction. Take a rather genuine Democratic president as Obama. Did he changed the finance system, despite the 2008 crisis and corruption? No. Did he really reduced the outrageous costs of healthcare system? No.

Something after an election can change, but I suspect that the "big-picture" is already decided. Hence, a figure as Trump is useful because he is a clown, he can grab the attention, and you stop thinking to the big picture.

@freemo In comedy it can be called the "Aubrey Plaza strategy": she is weird but constantly on the edge between funniest and crazyness 🙂 BTW, it seems that this is her attitude also in her real-life.

@freemo I'm not an expert but it is probably a case of mixed strategy.

If you read the example in this page, it fits a lot of real-world cases:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy_(game_theory)

@AmpBenzScientist yes, like in 1984 of Orwell.

@freemo @SteelFolk

@freemo Yes I see your point.

Maybe we can switch to public bathrooms divided by functionality. A bathroom reserved for people with disabilities, then another one with privacy guarantee internal spaces, and finally a "quick and cheap" bathroom with private toilet but shared sinks. In normal situations, the more comfort and privacy you want, the more time you had to wait.