mzan @mzan@qoto.org

@freemo without a video as example, it is difficult to judge when the "baby talk" is a fair communication, or when it is a form of "aggression" towards the poor baby. Like my grandmother pretending always "give me a kiss, give me a kiss". 🙂

@freemo you should ask to experts, not to us.

IMHO, you had to create a connection, utilizing multiple channels of communication. It is a mix of body and spoken language. You become partially a Charlie Chaplin. You are not only speaking, but also acting and partially singing. It's also a turn-based game: you say something, and you wait for a reaction. Usually, you imitate a little the answer of the child, but in more adult way, and the child step by step, try to imitate the adult way. It is usually a step by step imitation process.

@freemo ehm sorry, bad English on my side. I mean "only for being sure to be on the same page"

@freemo .. only for sake of security. In Eiffel you can declare new expanden/value types (i.e. an RGB color, a 3D Point and so on), while in old versions of Java you cannot declare new primitive types. Soon, you can do the same also in Java.

@freemo yes, there are two levels.

At the semantic/logical level, a type can be a value or a reference.

At the implementation level, if the value-object is big, you can store a reference to a shared dictionary of already instantiated immutable-objects. In OOP, this pattern is called Flyweight.

As funny side-note, in Common Lisp, the implementation level can use both an expanden value or a reference. In CL an integer is always an arbitrary long integer. You cannot have an integer overflow. If the integer is "small", then it will be a normal number ending with a 0 (or 1 depending from the implementation) in the last binary digits. If it is a long number, it will be allocated in RAM, and there will be a reference to it.

@freemo Eiffel language manages immutable types in a rather good way. They are called "expanded" in the Eiffel jargon, but you can think to them as "value" instead of "references/entities". So, you have no references to them, but only explicit values. The classic example is an INTEGER NUMBER, or a BOOLEAN or a POINT. You cannot change 5 in 10. 5 is a value.

@freemo ... bro, for the same reasons they invented bra :-)

@rodlux @amoroso Mandrake CD-ROMs were sold as a gadget of various Italian magazines. It was gorgeous. At the time, KDE was winning the battle against GNOME.

A distro similar to Mandrake, from a philosophical point of view, is Linux Mint.

@pimeys @publicvoit ... additionally I have this in the config

```
# off-line deduplication
services.beesd.filesystems = {
root = {
spec = "LABEL=nixos";
hashTableSizeMB = 512;
verbosity = "crit";
extraOptions = [ "--loadavg-target" "2.0" ];
};
};

# Btrfs maintanance
# Without this, the free space is not reclaimed after many deletions.
systemd.services.balanceBtrfsRoot = (balanceBtrfs "/" "daily");

```

@gothnbass@linuxrocks.online yes, Common Lisp is also a running system. You can interact with data, update the code, etc... Like when you interact with a DBMS.

@mobiuscog the problem of #nixos, if used for development, is that every programming language, IDE, editor, browser and so on has its built-in package manager, and this can conflict with the NixOS way.

I like also OpenSUSE Leap + distrobox, but I'm still using NixOS, because it is a lot easier for configuring services.

@Fighen @Elikorokoros @Mau_or_

in realtà è il contrario. La convenzione di Instanbul dà alle vittime di stupro un vantaggio in sede di processo

"In tema di violenza sessuale, la testimonianza della persona offesa vittima di siffatto reato, ove ritenuta intrinsecamente attendibile, costituisce una vera e propria fonte di prova, purché la relativa valutazione sia sorretta da un'adeguata motivazione, che dia conto dei criteri adottati e dei risultati acquisiti."

quindi se portato al limite, è l'accusato che deve dimostrare di essere innocente e non l'accusatrice a dover dimostrare di aver subito un danno, dato che la sua parola vale come prova.

Ovviamente, per evitare di condannare innocenti solo sulla base di una falsa accusa, l'accusato e gli inquirenti hanno facoltà di testare l'attendibilità dell'accusatrice. Da qui la sensazione che gli "stiano facendo il processo contro".

@dunkelstern Regarding documentation there is this approach https://documentation.divio.com/

In the specific case of NixOS: something was done, but I agree that more must be done.

@freemo nooo, this is the cancel-gun. If you shoot, the target will be fired and excluded from society within few days.There is no armor that can protect the target. The gun can spot a weak point a25 or more years in the past.

@Wearwolf

the worst of all, it is when you procrastinate, loosing energy while things pile up. Otium is often a smart idea: I solved a lot of problems while walking or cleaning the room.

@dunkelstern

> ... and the concept that there is no `plasma` meta package or something threw me off,

In reality this is a strength of NixOS: meta packages are not needed, because you enable and configure services directly in the NixOS configuration files. Then the service configuration will install the necessary packages.

Service configurations in NixOS, accept many more options than a simple meta-package.

For example, from the `plasma` service description

https://search.nixos.org/options?channel=23.05&show=services.xserver.desktopManager.plasma5.enable&from=0&size=50&sort=relevance&type=packages&query=services.xserver.desktopManager.plasma5.enable

you can open the NixOS source code, and see that it will install wayland packages like:

```
kwayland
kwayland-integration
```
and you can see how some things are configured.

I like very much the way one configure NixOS. It is a lot more readable and reproducible than an Ansible file.

@dunkelstern understood.

My workflow is this: I search in the NixOS options https://search.nixos.org/options?channel=23.05; I search in the manual; I search in the NixOS forum; I search in the ArchLinux wiki for discovering the generic concepts of the tool 🙂

NixOS suffers of this problem (and I mainly agree with you): NixOS configurations are on top of upstream packages; NixOS add often another layer, and there is the NixOS way to do things; often you had to understand both the standard way and how NixOS change it. For example I use the Arch Linux Wiki for understanding the standard way to configure things.

In worst case scenario, I inspect the config files generated.If you execute "systemctl status ..." often there is an hint about the config file used from the service.

NixOS is still an OS for hackers and advanced users, and sometime I don't know if the problems it solves are more than the problems it introduces. Especially if you use it for development.

BTW, Wayland appears by default in KDE login menu. IIRC, Wayland does not need a service/servers like X.

@dunkelstern everything can be improved, but the configuration section of NixOS manual seems very similar to what you are asking, to me: https://nixos.org/manual/nixos/stable/index.html#ch-configuration

What am I missing?

BTW: up to date, one of the best documentation examples remain the Arch Linux Wiki.

@UncleDuke1969 this is a very dangerous bro-bear: while you are mocking it, its brother is making fun of you behind your shoulder.