Antonio Vigilante @naciketas@qoto.org

@miriamrobern @jackofalltrades @12thRITS @joesabin@mastodon.world @bethsawin Of course it is. Anarcho-capitalism is an all-American thing, here in Europe it has no roots, and for the most part it is not even considered anarchism.

@jackofalltrades @miriamrobern @12thRITS @joesabin@mastodon.world @bethsawin In Ukraine alone, Russian socialism has caused around three million deaths.

@jackofalltrades @miriamrobern @12thRITS @joesabin@mastodon.world @bethsawin No, I consider Miriam's definition of authoritarianism arbitrary. A society becomes _strongly_ authoritarian when the difference between state and civil society is blurred. When, for example, the state arrogates to itself the right to meddle in family relations.

@jackofalltrades During the Spanish War, Camillo Berneri, Italy's foremost anarchist leader, was assassinated by communists.

@Mann Danilo Dolci.

@miriamrobern @jackofalltrades @12thRITS @joesabin@mastodon.world @bethsawin No serious discussion is possible with completely arbitrary definitions. I am an anarchist, authoritarianism is my enemy. But John Dewey, an American, is anti-authoritarian, and Anton Makarenko, a Russian and communist, is authoritarian.

@jackofalltrades @miriamrobern @12thRITS @joesabin@mastodon.world @bethsawin Interesting. Socialism is an ideology that under ideal conditions could create heaven. Unfortunately, however, it has never found ideal conditions, and has therefore systematically created hell. It was just bad luck.

@miriamrobern @jackofalltrades @12thRITS @joesabin@mastodon.world @bethsawin You are wrong. The people I spoke to were leading members of the Albanian Communist Party.
I didn't understand what I was pontificating about.

@miriamrobern @jackofalltrades @12thRITS @joesabin@mastodon.world @bethsawin I have visited Albania several times - my partner is Albanian - and several capitalist countries.

@jackofalltrades @miriamrobern @12thRITS @joesabin@mastodon.world @bethsawin How many times have you been to Albania?

@miriamrobern @jackofalltrades @12thRITS @joesabin@mastodon.world @bethsawin Enver Hoxha broke relations with all communist countries. First with the USSR, then with China. He considered Albania to be the only truly communist country in the world, and therefore could have no relations with anyone. Hoxha terrorised the Albanian people for years by telling them that the enemies of communism would invade the country. In reality, no one had the slightest care for that unfortunate country.

@miriamrobern @jackofalltrades @12thRITS @joesabin@mastodon.world @bethsawin The Albanian communist regime has been ignored by the entire world, it has not been pressurised by anyone. And it was a paranoid regime that brought only misery to the Albanian people.

@jackofalltrades @miriamrobern @12thRITS @joesabin@mastodon.world @bethsawin Italy was not very democratic when fascism took hold. It was a country with appalling illiteracy, with an economy that was in many ways still feudal, especially in the south, and an exceptional power of the Catholic Church. If the historical conditions justified the violence - this seems to me to be your thesis - then the fascist violence was justified.

@Blue17@mastodon.uno D'altra parte si tratta di gente che gioisce quando muoiono degli stranieri: https://www.glistatigenerali.com/partiti-politici/lettera-aperta-a-leghista-foggiano/

@jackofalltrades @miriamrobern @12thRITS @joesabin@mastodon.world @bethsawin The matter is more complex. In a democratic system, there are parties that serve the interests of the ruling class - in Italy the Christian Democrats, the party of the corrupt, served the interests of the rich and the mafia for decades -, parties that serve the interests of the workers, trade unions, movements and so on. At times there may be authoritarian drifts, but really no comparison with communist or fascist regimes is seriously possible.

@jackofalltrades @miriamrobern @12thRITS @joesabin@mastodon.world @bethsawin Your thesis is that the UK in the 80 was the same thing af the Albany of Enver Hoxha?

@jackofalltrades @miriamrobern @12thRITS @joesabin@mastodon.world @bethsawin In Italy, as in all democratic countries, the right to strike is guaranteed by law. Which country are you referring to?

@miriamrobern @jackofalltrades @12thRITS @joesabin@mastodon.world @bethsawin

This is yesterday's news: five policemen were convicted of beating a prisoner in San Gimignano prison. They are not always convicted: but to think that this is the same as in an undemocratic country is to be in bad faith.
https://www.tag24.it/529333-carcere-san-gimignano-tortura/

In this photo, taken in Cutro, all the sorrow of the members of the Italian government for the deaths of dozens of migrants due to their criminal policies. #italy #meloni

@jackofalltrades @12thRITS @joesabin@mastodon.world @bethsawin The difference is that in a capitalist country the policeman is prosecuted. But I am not defending capitalism. In a capitalist country I grew up in a 38 square metre house. But to counter capitalism with socialism is to be left behind a hundred years ago.