techhooves @pendragon@qoto.org

@pendragon Sad but true.. I have seen their "fact checks" often ping things about trump and then you click the fact check and it effectively says that the article is correct but then says a bunch of unrelated negative things about trump (which are sometimes valid).. Thats not fact checking though, thats basically campaigning for the democrats at that point.. its basically "yea those good things about trump were true but have you considered all these shitty things, also biden is awesome!".. the fact check articles are also usually with some pretty heavy bias, the author tends to clearly show a bias in wording that suggests they arrived at an opinion.

Meanwhile I've seen things posted by biden that have been debunked by more reputable and even left-leaning publications like CNN and yet those posts dont get the fact check link.

The bias is extraordinary, obvious, and a bit too much. I say this as someone who is no Trump lover too (though I dont like Biden either).

@pendragon

Well that's not entirely true. We don't catch diseases cross species easily at all. when it happens it is rare, usually, and only occurs in special environments where such things are likely to occur.

The pigeon/swine flu for example only actually crossed over to humans because it got into something we eat and that occured in a country where there was little or no meat regulations to catch it.. Birds had the flu for a long long time and we never caught it.

@adrysdale @Space6host

Just a little recap on coronavirus numbers for those who like to make it sound like Trump and the USA did a bad job on handling it, when in fact long-term seems we did a better job than almost any other country.

Just a side note, it is important we look at coronavirus cases and not deaths because we dont have similar comorbidities across countries. Obesity is the #1 comorbidity for coronavirus and the USA has more of that, by far, than any other country. Obviously we cant lay that blame on Trump or the government. So if we want to fairly evaluate the USA's government in handling this we have to look at the part of the equation they have control over that is case count. So lets give a good summary of that.

I will break the numbers down into two points, one to demonstrate long term outlook will be the change in case numbers since lockdown was letup in each respective country. For the most part that would be mid june to mid july for most countries. The other number we will look at is the current situation, which we will look at percentage of the population currently infected to measure that.

Literally I picked 7 random countries in europe and even included canada. The USA has beat all but two countries in terms of infection rate, canada, which is only slightly better, and germany, which has half the infection rate. The other 5 countries the USA is doing significantly better than on infection rate. More importantly though in terms of trending since lockdown the USA has significantly outperformed every single country without a single exception by a huge margin. In fact the USA is the only country showing a downward trend since lockdown was over at 1/3 increase where all other countries have seen upward trends between 5x and 86.16x. So overall I'd say the USA is probably one of the best performing countries worldwide in terms of the coronavirus when we consider both long-term outlook and current infection rate.

Moreover, while we cant really compare absolute numbers in the case of death rate, due to the comorbidity issue I mentioned we can still evaluate that by looking at relative numbers. Essentially if we look at how quickly our medical system adapted to reduce the mortality rate since initial outbreak till now (which would normalize for comorbidities to some extent). As can be seen in the attached chart the USA has done quite well in that regard as well.

USA:
* 0.00679% infected
* 1/3 decrease (0.33x) in case rate since out of lockdown

Canada:
* 0.00565% infected (0.832x of USa)
* 9x increase since out of lockdown

UK:
* 0.0107% infected (1.57x more than USA)
* 5x increase since out of lockdown

Spain:
* 0.0306% (4.51x more than USA)
* 86.16x increase since out of lockdown

Belgium:
* 0.0227% (3.34x more than USA)
* 36.7x increase since out of lockdown

Netherlands:
* 0.0190% infected (2.8x more than USA)
* 53x increase since out of lockdown

Sweden:
* 0.00671% infected (0.988x the USA)
* 16x increase since out of lockdown

Germany
* 0.00321% infected (0.472x USA)
* 12.4x increase since lockdown

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@pendragon

Yes I'm aware, been saying that from early on int he infection and no one believed me. Though dogs and lions have an attenuated immune response so they are at very low risk of being symptomatic and also much lower risk than humans for transfering the disease... though, then again, humans dont have the tendency to lick your face, so in practice that might even the playing ground a bit :)

@adrysdale @Space6host