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@elizatech Interesting. Perhaps part of the distinction is that poorer people need more services and better public infrastructure, which are only found in the more taxed area.

The way it seems to work for everyone else is that relatively left-ish people are willing to pay taxes and support public services, infrastructure, public transportation. Relatively right-ish people want big roomy yards and don't care how many hours a day they have to sit in their cars to get there and back, and aren't willing to pay for the betterment of anything that's not their own property.

Massive overgeneralization of course, but that''s how it seems to shake out in the aggregate.

@ZillaMon @gerrymcgovern

They do indeed, but they also often fail to clearly distinguish between what they know to be true and what they imagine to be true. It's something most of us outgrow eventually; and if we don't we run for mayor of New York City, and win.

@elizatech We're in a peculiar situation given substantially different tax regimes between Oregon and Washington. Lower property and income tax and relaxed regulations on the Washington side, coupled with an absence of sales tax on the Oregon side means lot of the more conservative element lives across the river and commutes into Portland daily to work and shop.

This has all kinds of side effects, not least Portland's famous comparative liberalism, since they can't vote here. Another is that many of the giganto-cars disappear at night and to some extent on weekends.

@bruces

Hey, we've only got one super toasty hot planet with a thick blanket of atmosphere and you want to mess it up? Plenty of chill planets and moons out there if that's your bag.

@gerrymcgovern Dumb as the chatbot is, it's not clear that it's less rational than a person, such as, say, the mayor.

We may in fact have achieved artificial intelligence: but very low intelligence, coupled to poor-to-nonexistent judgment. Effectively equivalent to a four-year old or a New York mayor.

I love those videos where a guy cooks a big meal -- bread, steak, veggies, tea -- in the wilderness, with nothing but a knife, tea kettle, and a big flat rock.

... And the $50,000 vehicle that brought him to the wilderness, and ten grand of video editing equipment, and an entire global trade system that brought him his spices and oils and meats and veggies...

People watching that thing thinking, I'll be ok when civilization fails, I know where there's a flat rock.

@spidermedic @fatsam

Surely that's where drone AI comes in handy.

Now if you can just get whitetail deer hunting and butchering software for those drones, you're all set.

@elizatech I hope you have a good visit; unfortunately it's not as immediately conducive to appreciating as it used to be, thanks to development and the aforementioned rough patch. For me the appealing factors are: enormous amounts of greenspace, huge, superb parks everywhere and ready access to countryside an wilderness; and the fact that it doesn't have just one central walking district or cultural area, but rather a lot of them scattered around the city. (You've posted about that sort of district in Dublin, I think). I fell in love with the place on a relatively short visit many years ago, but I don't know if that would happen now. Still can't think of anywhere in the US I'd rather live, though.

@elizatech Will you be continuing south after Portland? Once or of twice a year I take a sleeper to the SF Bay Area. (I still try to avoid flying since 2020.) The southern Oregon and Northern California stretches are remarkable.

@elizatech Yes. It'd be difficult, for reasons of jurisdiction and national policy. for a US state to replicate the success of an entire country like Portugal. Even if we'd gone about it sensibly, patiently, and had done things in the right order.

@elizatech Portland's a lovely city, and one that works harder than almost any I know about (in the US) to stay that way. The fact that it's lately become a magnet for people at rock bottom has a lot to do with how decent and livable it is in the first place. in other parts of the country they set fire to tent cities, and put homeless people on planes to places like Portland and Honolulu, in the hope and expectation they won't come back.

@eduqate @anneapplebaum Not like the old days, where at the first sign of antisocial behavior from a member of the lower classes, John Law would give him a firm but friendly clip 'round the lug 'ole, and he'd be on his way, a completely reformed character.

@ct_bergstrom You'd be amazed how many people, while admitting that vaccination greatly reduces severity and duration of illness, nevertheless for some bizarre reason insist it doesn't reduce transmission; a take that defies both logic and evidence.

Apparently the IDF had AI support in the decision to kill the WCK food aid workers in Gaza. This is what comes of training your models on Yelp reviews.

@Gillybean @w7voa Either that or it just hallucinated that chefs are the real problem to be eradicated. Probably trained on too many Yelp reviews. "AI" does things at least as crackpot as that on a daily basis.

@bruces If it was trying to get back to Cape Canaveral it's totally on the wrong side of the state. Lame deorbit plan, not putting that guy in charge again.

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