Ukraine War: why Russians DON'T target civilians
How can one think that the Russian military strikes civilian targets and kills civilians on purpose? They know full well that the US wants nothing more than excuses to convict them, so they will avoid war crimes by any means.
It has been explained many times since the beginning, but here are again the three reasons behind alleged attacks on civilian targets:
1. The Ukrainian army cowardly takes refuge in the cities and transforms civilian buildings into positions and weapons depots which the Russian army then destroys.
2. The Ukrainian military uses missile interception systems directly in cities, because it's easier to hit a Russian missile when it's close to the target and they don't care if the derailed missile ends up on civilians.
3. The Ukrainian army has received NATO weapons that they don't know how to use and sometimes they hit civilian buildings by accident.
The countries that actually have been bombing whole countries for years killing civilians to annihilate and terrorize those countries are mainly US, Israel, UK and France. And they did so knowing that their media's massive propaganda would cover everything.
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Ukraine War: Refuting Russian propaganda
@post If it's easier to hit a missile when it's close to its target, and that forces Ukraine to place anti-air defenses in the city... then it logically follows that the cities *are* the target.
If Russia was only hitting military installations, that's where the defenses would be.
We've all seen the videos of their missiles hitting playgrounds with no interference from the Ukranians.
Your Russian propaganda isn't even internally consistent. It certainly isn't convincing.
Ukraine War: Refuting Russian propaganda
> If it's easier to hit a missile when it's close to its target, and that forces Ukraine to place anti-air defenses in the city... then it logically follows that the cities *are* the target.
It's addressed in my own post but let's make it more clear: this war is fought in cities only because the Ukrainian army is hiding in the cities. Again, the Ukrainian army has turned civilian buildings into hideouts and weapons depots.
> If Russia was only hitting military installations, that's where the defenses would be.
Sorry I don't understand what you mean here.
> We've all seen the videos of their missiles hitting playgrounds with no interference from the Ukranians.
I can't imagine a video that *proves* that the Russian military is aiming at real civilian targets.
> Your Russian propaganda isn't even internally consistent. It certainly isn't convincing.
Your answer was pathetic… this is not Russian propaganda, this is information from independent journalists like the Italian ones who are there providing video footages.
Even using logic only: in Western countries, Russian media like RT and Sputnik are censored, while in Russia Western media are visible as always. Which side would you say is inside a propaganda bubble?
Ukraine War: Refuting Russian propaganda
@post You can try to play the chicken-and-egg game by claiming that Russia is attacking cities because Ukraine is defending cities while I argue that Ukraine is defending cities because Russia is attacking them... but the bottom line is that Ukraine wouldn't need to defend anything if Russia hadn't started its aggressive war of conquest in the first place, so we all know damn well which came first.
No, the *numerous* videos don't prove they're aiming at civilians. They just prove that they don't seem to mind hitting civilians over and over again and *strongly suggests* that they're aiming for them.
As for your last point, you're totally full of shit. I just pulled up RT's website. It's not censored at all here.
And I've watched the clips of Russia's state media frantically shutting down commentators who get a bit too far off the script and admit that maybe Russia isn't entirely blameless. And that's before we get into how many critics in Russia mysteriously fall out of upper-story windows.
You can claim that what you're repeating isn't Russian propaganda all you want. But the world has heard enough Russian propaganda at this point to know it when we hear it. It's as unmistakable as French snootiness and American hubris.
We see through you.
GTFO of other people's lands.
Ukraine War: Refuting Russian propaganda
> but the bottom line is that Ukraine wouldn't need to defend anything if Russia hadn't started its aggressive war of conquest in the first place, so we all know damn well which came first.
Oh, so you know what "Russian propaganda" says but you don't know the stated reasons for its intervention?
Don't you know that the war has been going on for 8 years, with the Ukrainian army bombing the Donbass just because its inhabitants spoke the Russian language and didn't accept the Ukrainian government put there by the USA?
Don't you know that there have been 14,000 deaths recognized by the UN?
Don't you know that the Ukrainian government banned Russian-language newspapers in Donbass?
Don't you know that Poroshenko said that Russian-speaking people would live in basements and their children would not go to school?
Don't you know that the Ukrainian government had left Crimea without water and there is even a video of Zelensky when he was still a comedian making fun of the deprived Crimeans on television?
Don't you know that Ukraine has never implemented Minsk's peace agreements and Merkel recently said that those agreements only served to take time and prepare Ukraine for war?
Why do you think Zelensky is laughing like an idiot in this video while Putin reiterates that Minsk's agreements need to be implemented?
Ukraine War: Refuting Russian propaganda
@post Which part of that, exactly, are you arguing justifies Russia's genocidal attempt to aggressively conquer Ukraine?
Ukraine War: Refuting Russian propaganda
The only genocide is that by Ukrainian Nazis against ethnic group of Russian-speaking Ukrainians.
Again, 14 000 victims recognized by United Nations.
"Divided Ukraine: What Language Do You Express Love In?" is a documentary on this 8 years war, by Italian and American journalists. Is that Russian propaganda too?
Can you consider the possibility that you are inside a propaganda bubble and that there are things that have been kept from you by the Western media?
Ukraine War: Refuting Russian propaganda
@post And now we've hit the "Ukrainian Nazis" talking point. 
If I was playing Kremlin Talking Point Bingo, I'd have won three different times.
If you really want to convince people that you're not a Russian propagandist, then try occasionally making arguments that aren't 100% perfectly in line with the Kremlin all the time.
Like I said before, you're painfully transparent.
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Notice that you are the one who switched from actual arguments to empty rhetoric.
