@design_RG I was a little confused on this, are we supposed to be able to log into peertube and that discourse with the same account? Or do we need to make separate ones?
@ramob You will need to create new accounts for the other services -- as there's no integration of user acccounts between them yet.
We suggest using the same username so it's easier to recognize people. 👍️
@design_RG ok thank you! I'll go make one I suppose.
@ramob You are welcome. Don't worry with the Discourse account for now, as the Forums are still broken. A bad version upgrade and everything is knocked off kilter.
Content is safe, hopefully, plus there are backups. Hopefully. 😄
@design_RG For these is there a subscription/system in place to help support them? Also what is the difference between the two gitlabs? Is Funkwhale federated soundcloud?
NextCloud - https://cloud.qoto.org
GitLab - https://git.qoto.org
GitLab pages (including user hosted pages) - https://*.qoto.io
FunkWhale - https://audio.qoto.org
PeerTube - https://video.qoto.org
Discourse - https://discourse.qoto.org
@ramob Before I start responding to this message -- some good news, as the Discourse Forums are back online. :)
And on to these questions :
- subscription : we don't have any special system, our admin has been paying all the costs for the instance and the other services out of pocket (and this adds up substantially -- the mastodon instance alone is over 120 USD per month). User participation is appreciated, and if you want to do any more, please contact our admin, Freemo.
- gitlab : I think the one at git.qoto.org is the official instance one. I don't know about the other address, Freemo is the one who uses it most and the best person to clarify.
- Funkwhale is a music streaming service, and you can store and play your tracks from there from anywhere. It's possible to see and play other user shared tracks if permissions are given too.
@design_RG Awesome thank you. I've been talking to @freemo a but but great to hear it's coming along I'll have to jump in there after I get done studying today.
Is this hosted on a VPS/cloud or what? Just curios if the cost is mainly internet throughput or actual infrastructure cost.
>> Is this hosted on a VPS/cloud or what? Just curios if the cost is mainly internet throughput or actual infrastructure cost.
The whole Qoto.org is hosted via https://masto.host/ services, which keeps it up and ticking with basic maintenance, backups, etc.
But at a steep cost, which depends on how much data transfers are used, the amount of RAM needed for each virtual server, etc.
Self-Hosting is a good way to cut costs down drastically, but it comes at a cost of time and labour needed to keep an eye on things frequently.
Koyu.space recently switch over to self-hosting and I imagine their costs came down a lot. Their server is described in their About pages :
Actually only the mastodon side is hosted through masto.host. Our other services are on Amazon ECS, a container service. Mastodon itself costs a few hundred a month.. I think something in the ballpart of 150 - 200 IIRC, the other services running on amazon are significanty more expensive right now costing me about 500$ per month but ive been able to cut that price in half just recently by reserving instances and some other tactics.
@freemo
OUCH! Don't get me wrong I'm appreciative but that is a painful number. What do you mean by reserving instances?
@design_RG
@freemo Some of the tech with host sharing is crazy. @design_RG
@ramob
Same rate, but you can rent out your instance as a spot instance to recover a fraction of the cost, never did that though, so i dont know the details.
@design_RG