@freemo Fair enough.

(For the record, I was only referring to those who haven't undergone any surgery or anything, but dress up as the opposite gender.)

I'm not trying to be dismissive of trans people, (this seems to be your interpretation) but merely state the fact that wearing a dress does not turn a man into a woman.

Frankly, with all due respect, if you follow my posts and replies, you should know better than consider me hateful of trans people.

@realcaseyrollins In that case your post could have used those details.

Generally I wouldnt consider someone who only wears a dress as "transitioning", but I also dont find it important enough to give them a hard time if they use the word to refer to themselves. Its mostly just not an issue worth creating drama over for me.

But your view is in line with how some trans people feel as well, that people who havent undergone surgery or hormone therapy arent trans by definition.

@realcaseyrollins And sorry I misunderstood. Like I said it was the first post that came across as *borderline* hateful. I'm glad you clarified what you meant. I think the original post just left out some important details then.

@freemo Yes, it did. Next time I should make it clearer who I am referring to.

@freemo My beliefs on this topic are quite nuanced, and different aspects of my opinions have triggered people on those who don't view trans people favorably too (https://social.quodverum.com/@shortbus/103466334737055998).

To me, toeing the line between loving trans people (as everyone should) and being truthful has been proving difficult, and I still have much to learn.

@realcaseyrollins Its a delicate line to toe. Fromt he christian angle of it all I have no issue with someone saying "my religion doesnt allow me to be gay/trans/etc" or if they think they might go to hell for it. Though it would be an issue if someone says "my rreligion doesnt allow YOU to be trans" or if someone felt the need to tell a trans person they were going to hell.

So far it seems to be a line youve walked. I have never seen you attack a trans person though you have admited that it is considered a sin to you according to religion. I think that is an acceptable expression even if i dont agree with it.