@Pat @rlamacraft well aside from that being completely unconstitutional...

@Pat @rlamacraft i'm curious what problem you think rationing access to energy would solve (shelving for the moment that administrating ration systems requires heinous amounts of privacy invasion and clerical oversight)

@icedquinn @Pat @rlamacraft the priorities and allocation act of 1940 has not been ruled unconstitutional

@s8n judges tend not to bother with constitutionality during wartime and they aren't allowed to comment on constitutionality unless someone specifically sues under it.

@Pat @rlamacraft

@icedquinn @Pat @rlamacraft I would hesitate to bring the question before this scotus

@s8n @Pat @rlamacraft they had people in WW1/2 argue that conscription is slavery and they gave them prison for sedition even though the constitution literally says you have free speech.

@icedquinn @rlamacraft

Roovevelt did it. Carter did it.

The commerce clause gives congress the power to regulate it, if it crosses state borders.

@Pat @rlamacraft kind of like when they just up and decided to start stealing everyone's gold?

@icedquinn @rlamacraft

>"kind of like when they just up and decided to start stealing everyone's gold?"

The takings clause prohibits that.

@Pat @rlamacraft well they still did it regardless https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Reserve_Act

@Pat @rlamacraft @s8n but i'm still curious what problem is believed to be solved here. the united states is not at war and we have no obligation to enter one (ukraine is not an ally of the usa, it's just where president poopypants launders his money,) so a wartime rationing scheme has no justification.

oil is a strategic resource and the argument would be the military needs all of it, and no judge is going to be the one who says actually i don't think the military needs food and fuel, so that's usually the backing argument.

so we should just completely abandon the market to.. do what exactly? fuel isn't sold out here it's just expensive because of virtue signalling and intentional handicapping by retarded officials.

@icedquinn @Pat @rlamacraft it's in danger of being sold out imminently

@s8n @Pat @rlamacraft so turn keystone back on and see if any contractors are willing to work on it after being stabbed in the back.

@icedquinn @Pat @rlamacraft at the moment there is no keystone, the workers are all fired and there are no materials or facilities allocated to it whatsoever. It's fucked, it will take until 2024 just to restart the project

@s8n @Pat @rlamacraft i dunno. this is a manufactured crisis. giving the same idiot government who regulated it in to existence even more powers sounds like idiocy.

@icedquinn @Pat @rlamacraft it was manufactured and now it's a crisis. The fact that a retard caused it doesn't make it less severe or dangerous

@s8n @Pat @rlamacraft
> retard shuts off pipeline
> retard sanctions oil source over not our problem
> but lets give the retard rationing powers

@icedquinn @s8n @Pat @rlamacraft Yeah, I get it, sanctions are a primary cause but regardless of if you personally agree with them geopolitical concerns are the government's job and they have the potential to impact you. I don't see how sanctions are a valid argument against rationing powers.

@roboneko imagine if i spent all of my money on cocaine and said oh god there is a national money crisis, i'm gonna have to seize all of your money and manage it for you instead.

@Pat @rlamacraft @s8n

@icedquinn @Pat @rlamacraft @s8n

Yeah, I already said I get it that sanctions are the primary cause. But those are geopolitical. Decisions of that sort are literally the governments job. There's no way around that.

In your analogy the equivalent would be if it was your job to do cocaine for whatever reason. I guess the analogy doesn't work very well because there would need to be some larger situation and you would be the one deciding whether or not doing the cocaine was called for in that situation and then when people got upset over the negative monetary impacts of you having decided that it was necessary to do the cocaine, well, sorry, that's literally your job. And I guess in this analogy you also happen to have the job of seizing money to manage it. Or something. I dunno the analogy is kind of breaking down.

@icedquinn @Pat @rlamacraft the retard already has rationing powers whether you like it or not. That's why it was a big deal when his party stole the election

@s8n @Pat @rlamacraft i'm done talking about this

@icedquinn @Pat @rlamacraft @s8n

> it's just expensive because of virtue signalling and intentional handicapping by retarded officials

uhh, currently oil is horrendously expensive globally check the markets man

@icedquinn @rlamacraft

FDR did a lot of stuff that was unconstitutional. He was the closest thing the US has ever had to a king.

This is why we have the 22nd Amendment.