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@_thegeoff

But why would the liquid start roiling in the first place? Liquid surface tilt and pot tilt are obviously coupled resonators, so practically you will get both oscillating if you get either.

@_thegeoff

I don't think it rocked less, but we didn't really test it for too long, because unless you held it it would splash its contents out at a surprisingly high throughput.

I really should find a pot to break. :)

@_thegeoff

That is a reasonable alternative hypothesis (that we basically get white-ish noise that pushes a dampened pendulum around, so the pendulum will end up with some amplitude of resonant oscillations). It should be easily verifiable if I had such a pot (basically insert a membraneless speaker with the axis oriented radially, play white noise, and see what happens). Perhaps I should find an old pot and reshape it that way with some wood and a hammer.

I realized that I'm actually not sure how a harmonic oscillator driven by noise from e.g. a Wiener process (but without damping) should behave (would its amplitude diverge? probably not).

@_thegeoff who specifically might find it interesting

Consider a pot with a convex bottom (i.e. it will stand on its midpoint) with sufficiently large radius of curvature to make it stable when filled to any level. When you put such a pot on an electric hotplate and get it boiling, it starts rocking: youtube.com/watch?v=vB_szsLa3z

I have a hypothesis on what's going on (the pot rocks away from the area where the boiling is more intense due to density difference, contact with hotplate increases rate of heating, so there's more heating on the side that's currently lower and thus any rocking gets amplified). Sadly, I don't have the pot anymore and didn't thing at that time of any experiments that could falsify this hypothesis.

@_thegeoff

How does that work? Is that a polymer/something with different mechanism of adhesion to concrete vs internal cohesion?

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@JeffGrigg @grimalkina

Yes.

What makes no sense is to expect a good solution that takes a long time to implement to increase the metric gradually while it's being developed/deployed.

Such assumptions lead people to create metric that measure progress of a solution instead of state of the issue, which causes (a) people to declare success when the "progress" metric reaches some threshold lower than 100% (b) fixation on a particular solution.

@grimalkina

A particular example of same-mold thinking I was thinking of was wanting a metric for "how well a given problem is solved right now" and expecting it to be slowly varying over time, which ignores problems where any partial solutions are worthless or nearly worthless.

@grimalkina

TBF people often try to work under the assumption that the problems businesses solve can be squashed into the same mold too. In my anecdotal experience assuming this and assuming that everyone works the same way is correlated, so much so I assumed without thinking that they have the same cause.

@CharlotteBuff

Also, thanks for making me look at unicode.org/reports/tr51/#Flag, which contains the following statement, which IMO is self-ridiculing:

> Although a pair of REGIONAL INDICATOR symbols is referred to as an emoji_flag_sequence, it really represents a specific region, not a specific flag for that region.

@CharlotteBuff

The thing that I complain about is that I can write a piece of text that, when rendered, has some meaning, and the rendering of that very same byte sequence (e.g. in message logs) later will convey a different meaning.

A text encoding can choose carefully how the symbols that can be encoded are defined, so that they won't be misused (as I suppose you'd call using regional-s regional-y to represent the Assad regime) in ways that will be unambiguous at one point in time and have unambiguously different meaning at another point in time.

We have a practical case of encoding of country flags causing problems.

To recap, flags are encoded as sequences of codepoints corresponding to letters in the country's ISO code (so, Polish flag is <flag-p> <flag-l>). There is no heed paid to their mutability over time.

The Syrian flag will at some point start being rendered differently. Then, all the previous statements about Assad's government that used the flag will start rendering as if they were about the rebels.

I'm sad at Unicode's failures to fully and immutably encode the meaning of whoever wrote the text (see Han unification for counterexample to "fully").

@glent This also looks borked? I can't imagine how you could get pH of 0.2 in a water treatment plant.

@whitequark @mcc

But that only applies to things that are likely to be present at a jobsite, so people who don't work next to a workshop/lab/something like that will still have the same problem with stuff like assorted resistors.

@mcc @whitequark

An electronics parts store in Kraków that I frequented used to do that for stuff like connectors or resistors that would normally be packed in units of ~100.

@regehr I think there were many worse zoom catastrophes in courts (well, catastrophies for the person in question but often arguably better results for the society).

@ckfinite @whitequark

Seconded.

On a similar note, it should be easy to find pirated Kongsberg simulators of an engineering plant of a ship with Diesel main engine and steam TG paired with a shaft motor-generator.

@susankayequinn @djg

If you don't mind me asking, I'd like to better understand how people think of special tableware. (I myself don't feel a need to use/have special tableware.)

My best approximation of why people like to have and use special tableware is similar to reasons for using makeup or aesthetically pleasing clothes. Is that a roughly reasonable comparison or very off?

I would expect that, given this is mostly about visual aesthetics, the desire to use special tableware would often cooccur with desire to make/serve visually aesthetically pleasing food. Am I roughly correct?

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