@levisan i think most christians would agree hearing sermons is not the point of going to church. not to say they don’t have a purpose and wouldn’t be missed if they were gotten rid of

@sabbatical I'm going to guess "most" is true, but I have a few clear memories of comments in past churches about things like how a good sermon is or should be the reason you pick a church… definitely was a turn-off!

@levisan i have passed on churches because of the teaching tbh. last year we tried out one where the pastor went on a disconnected rant about the evils of “socialism” during his sermon, hah

@sabbatical Wow! I'd find any "sermon" about politics in that way to be very off-puttting, even if the politics aligned with my own thinking!

I guess one minor thing about Catholic churches that I like now that that's where I am is that the Sunday sermon has to be tied to the readings for that Sunday, which are dictated by Rome, in some way.

@levisan i can see the advantages to doing that, but still don’t think it’d be great. this guy’s sermon didn’t actually have anything to do with socialism, seemed like he just shoehorned a couple minutes of fox news punditry into a random spot to get it off his chest

@levisan i think any speaker could make it happen with any topic. just have to let the intrusive thoughts get the better of you