@freemo grep your local copy of the bible for "sobriety" the priest is full of crap.
Not that it should be illegal but don't justify it from a religious standpoint.

@swiley Searching the bible now.. 0 hits on sobriety, sober has several hits but none of them are talking about drugs, and none of them seem to claim that intoxication is wrong.

I think the excess use of wine in the bible alone shows that sobriety is not a law, jesus is literally handing out drugs in the bible (wine) that he creates using his christian magick thing he has going.

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@freemo Yeah
I'll admit it's been a while since I read the bible but Paul talks quite a lot about getting drunk and what not.
This is a personal decision though. That the government forces you to make a decision about this sort of thing is extremely upsetting.

@swiley Well you'd have to provide a passage for us to really debate it.

But i suspect if there is anything in the bible its more about not being an alcoholic than it is about never getting intoxicated, since clearly the bible is quite ok and even promotes certain drugs (wine), within reason.

@freemo I really like the phrase "sober minded" since that seems to cover all the vagaries you can experience, including intoxication by social media.

@swiley Yea, and that in and of itself is a fairly common theme in the bible.

@freemo Just to be clear. I haven't been sober this whole evening and the bartenders were shaking their heads at me a minute ago.

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