@NanoRaptor the death of OPN to Leenode was a hard blow, but we persevere, OFTC has sufficient talk
traditional animal cruelty
@alex also reminded of an outsider admonishing locals in the Himalaya mountains for not closing a public tap fully. People were reluctant to change, because it was culturally considered improper to stop water from flowing downhill and deprive the plains of water.
traditional animal cruelty
@alex all I am saying is that we wouldn't know the context, and it may not be (have been) entertainment.
I am reminded of a joke about the game of cricket and England, where Africans visiting England thought a sureshot way to get rain was to start playing cricket!
You just don't know when, or if, what you perceive as out of place now became that way.
@alex tradition usually has a rooted reason behind it. Maybe somebody from there would know.
Trying to teach the native his history? Look up the Madras regiment of the Indian army, founded about 250 years ago. Natives of colonies fighting for the colonizer goes back atleast till the Boer war.
Why would you think anybody would volunteer to fight the colonizer's wars! So, the colonizer didn't force its subjects to fight for it, didn't redirect agriculture to its own ends, and so on? Yeah, lets take the colonizer's history as gospel, even if it flies in the face of common sense.
This is a quite extraordinary piece of misrepresentation.
Why would you even think natives of a colony would volunteer to fight for the colonizer!
The British banned martial arts training, demilitarizing an active populace. It then conscripted people, made them fight its wars, going back to the Boer war 250 years ago. Natives looked to the enemy's enemy.
And why would you think India needed grain, when it has traditionally been an exporter! Bengal is a granary, where do you think its grain had gone!
@paninid all downhill after Nicea, eh?
Rhetoric is so easy, when you don't have to consider all the facts.
> back when the Nazis were doing their thing
Then, nobody in the colonies knew what Nazism was. India was a demilitarized colony, whose natives were looking to push the colonizer out and trying to learn from the enemy's enemy.
The natives couldn't in time; by the time a native army started taking back the land from the east with Japanese support during WW2, the colonizer stole all the grain to feed own troops, resulting in the Bengal famine killing more people (and livestock) than in Auschwitz and in Hiroshima combined.
Happy 31st birthday, #Debian!
It was not my first distribution, but it was definitely my go-to distro after all those years in my #freesoftware adventure. Here's for 31 more!
> #Scheme on top of #PreScheme
Ah, you are a minimalist that way. Sort of what #Squeak #Smalltalk does with its VM development (based on C). I'd want the high-level language to do heavy-lifting, so maybe #LispFlavouredErlang on top of PreScheme.
> OS in PreScheme and Scheme
GNU Mes and #Guix must be on that track.
@louis@emacs.ch @craigbro
@tetrislife It was more of social/economic, in the large, question.
you see people used to do efforts together, to create useful things.. and I feel that now we're all bored by bad jobs, and trying to use our bodies aimlessly.
seems like a waste
@ramin_hal9001
As a #Zig fan, and also unhappy about NIH, yours is a very sobering take. I guess you imply that only code to bootstrap a higher-level language should be written in a lower-level language and #PreScheme is enough for that. But what do you typically use for everything on top of that?
@louis@emacs.ch @craigbro
@louis @craigbro Rust, Zig, Go, Nim, Hare, Virgil, and now C3. Seeing so many languages try to replace C is a little frustrating. I wish people could collaborate more on a smaller number of languages, rather than just try to re-invent a whole language from scratch. Although I know why it happens: people disagree on implementation details, especially syntax schisms form in communities, and it is so easy to start making your own programming language (not at all easy to make it a good language). Schisms also happen for political reasons, or because a big business is suffering from "Not Invented Here" syndrome.
My systems programming language is PreScheme, because minimalism and lambda calculus are eternal.
pro-libre software, pro-holisticism
pro-communalism, anti-consumerism
anti-witchhunts
fan of #Plan9 and #HaikuOS
I write software (C++) for a living.