I saw a thread about decent email providers somewhere around here, but I didn't save it and now I cannot find it. :/

Any recommendations for something that lets me use neomutt as a client, will not mine my data, and will not suddenly disappear?

@timorl Was @digdeeper in that thread?
Anyway, last time I asked this question I was pointed at running my own, specifically https://mailinabox.email, but I've since encountered others like it that may be less invasive: https://mailu.io/ https://maddy.email
So I'm running a mailinabox, and an opensmtpd, the latter of which I actually do recommend. It's simple and nice, there are just a handful of undocumented, or incorrectly documented, parts that make it a lot harder to learn - I can run you through all those I've encountered to save you the hassle, they all relate to virtual users, except the include directive, which is basically useless.
And it disappeared because Freenom pulled my domain with no warning or notice. I am still fighting to get any reply at all. Don't register with Freenom.

@Zerglingman @digdeeper@mastodon.honeypot.im I actually already have a self-hosted mail, but I don't trust myself or it to work on it reliably. Since I want to switch to something as a primary mail provider I would much prefer for it to be ran by professionals.

Heh, I already had this experience with Freenom. Supposedly what they are doing is illegal, but I'm not motivated enough to do anything about it.

@Zerglingman @digdeeper@mastodon.honeypot.im Ah, "illegal" might have been the wrong word, it's supposedly not in accordance with the TLD terms or something like that, so "illegal in the internet" :P @robryk might know more.

@timorl I don't really recall much about freenom, but if I was complaining about a registrar's bad behaviour, it was about behaviour that violates their agreement with the registry.

Maybe this was about warning before expiry, which registrars are supposed to do in a very exactly prescribed fashion?

@Zerglingman @digdeeper@mastodon.honeypot.im

@Zerglingman

Lapsing. TTBOMK most (all?) registries require that registrar send an e-mail some time before expiry (regardless of automatic renewal setups...). (It might actually be all, because they may have been prodded into doing that by ICANN.)

@digdeeper@mastodon.honeypot.im @timorl

@timorl I’m using SDF.org and mutt, but it isn’t e-mail provider.

@szczezuja That's very cool, but definitely not what I'm looking for. :D

@timorl I use Posteo and find that it works well. Not free, but well-priced. One minus is that it lacks custom domain support, but I use Simple Login aliases for that.

@nafnlj Thanks for the recommendation, looks good. If disroot doesn't work out this will probably be my next choice.

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