This is a good night in the #Fediverse all thanks to #Mediaite and of course our demigod of the wind and sea #JohnMastodon
@trueslicky @seldo So all of the media outfits--fellow journalists, mind you--that have reported on the violations, they're all just lying?
It's all a big conspiracy among journalists to throw each other under the bus?
Or might it be possible that maybe, just maybe, some of these journalists aren't innocent and pure as the wind driven snow?
I really don't care about #Twitter. It was always a garbage site. I don't care about #Musk either.
But I really wish people wouldn't be so quick to deny facts and substitute their own realities for the sake of dramatic stories.
That does nobody any good.
@ottoflux Well I think it's good to step back and center around claims that would be more mainstream, easier to swallow for more people.
Occam's Razor does happen to point to explanations that will tend to be more mainstream. more digestible for a general audience on social media.
@schuyler1d You got it.
People engage with Twitter as it directly provides them entertainment, whether that's talking to others, or viewing media, or whatever.
I really don't think many people enjoy Bitcoin for the sake of its own entertainment.
Some, sure, but not that many.
@seldo @jakobdorof @babak Think about how that sounds to potential consumers of news.
If I want to know what actually happened in the world yesterday, and someone is offering to actively push their personal moral ideas on me, well I'm going to pass.
If I want that I'll go to a church.
I think it's fair to say most of us want something different from #journalism.
It's one thing to recognize and work to mitigate the impact of personal biases, but it's something entirely different to embrace and impose them on the task.
Either way, again, I mean this practically and pragmatically, that sort of attitude has really harmed confidence in journalistic institutions today.
"In other words, based on what we know about fentanyl exposure, it is extremely unlikely that what we saw was Bannick overdosing from inhaling #fentanyl in a gust of wind."
@trueslicky @seldo "Nobody doxxed anything. Also, here's where someone doxxed."
Twitter counts posting real time information of a person's whereabouts as doxxing, which I don't think is an unreasonable definition.
Again, regardless of whether I do or don't agree with the policy, at least we should be honest about the story, that they broke highly publicized rules of the site.
There's no sense misleading people about what happened here.
@schuyler1d Except that Twitter provides direct value to people.
Huge difference.
@sivy Well gpg keys would make more sense than ssh keys.
I really wish public key infrastructure had been built into the core of #ActivityPub and I'm strongly critical of the platform for missing that opportunity.
But yep, it can be bolted on. I hope it will be.
That said, there is server to server cryptographic methods already involved. We just need it to be end to end.
@me @murshedz Well it's because #Twitter use remains high so using Twitter remains a great way to broadcast to a lot of people.
And the ToS over there aren't THAT hard to abide by. Don't dox people and you won't be suspended. I think journalists realize it's not that hard to stay between those lines.
@parents4future Well, they're allowed to advertise because that's good for the customers they serve.
And also because maybe government shouldn't be picking and choosing the folks who are and aren't allowed to speak?
@trueslicky @seldo Except, that's not what happened at all. That story is factually false.
Musk didn't ban journalists critical of him. He didn't ban anyone. His company, #Twitter, applied its terms of service against doxing, and whether I agree with those terms or not, it's a fundamentally different story than what you're promoting here.
But I recognize that your goal seems to be haranguing conservatives, facts be damned.
Personally, I'm liberal, but IMO part of being on that side of the scale involves calling out such nonsense.
@babak @seldo And this is exactly the sort of attitude that has the public losing so much faith in #journalism.
I personally know a few people in the journalism world, and it's amazing how confused they are about why people don't trust them as they put their fingers on the scales. As they _can't help_ but put their fingers on the scales.
Fallacious appeals to authority don't somehow justify biased reporting. It only embraces it, and turns reasonable readers off.
@empiricism Well I think the more noteworthy part is how _opponents_ to these people seem to hang on their every word.
I'm trying to emphasize the ways that people react in such counterproductive ways, in the end supporting the causes they oppose, feeding the trolls and even elevating them with their own followers.
I really don't think #Musk would have bought Twitter if his opponents hadn't been egging him on like this.
@empiricism Yes, and this is key!
Elon #Musk wants attention. Anyone giving him attention is giving him what he wants. They are playing his game, helping him reach his goal.
So many people who are anti-Musk are contributing to his goal.
If you're really anti-Musk then ignore him. That's the only way he'll go away, when he gets bored of being ignored. Same for #Trump.
The old internet commandment applies here: Don't feed the trolls.
@saeed19 I don't think the defunding of a major electric car manufacturer is the progressive dream you seem to think...
Today's headlines about #Musk banning journalists from #Twitter strike me as a great illustration of the behavior that has so many people losing faith in #journalism over the years.
Whether one agrees with the twitter policies on doxing or not, for reports to not put the alleged violations front and center is to misinform readers.
Anyone with more knowledge of the event will know those journalistic institutions are presenting a misleading story, and that's just going to reinforce distrust in journalism.
@enbrown It doesn't strike me as a change of policy, though, but rather a clarification.
I'd say "Live location information" is contained within "physical location information".
Whether the policy is good or bad is a different matter, but this sounds like, "Oh, we need to list out this specific example? Fine, we'll list it."
The FBI frequently flagged joke tweets, asked for moderation. #twitterfiles https://reason.com/2022/12/16/fbi-reported-jokes-tweets-twitter-files-censorship/
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)