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@caiocgo @Gargron

Through discussion we've identified many, many use cases where boosts and other workarounds really aren't sufficient.

The most recent time this came up was in terms of adding captions while boosting an image without alttext.

provides functionality that really can't be made up for in any other way, enabling people to build positively on others' contribution.

@neighbor

That's it.

It's their server running the instance; they can do what they want with it unless there's some sort of legally binding agreement on file.

@MollyNYC

How do you figure?

It seems to me their voters would have voted them in regardless of anything McCarthy might have done.

Heck, such people might have worn the sanction as a badge of honor to get even more excitement out of their constituents.

@heidilifeldman

Reporting says the National Guard was offered but DC and the legislative branch refused to bring them on, even as the administration was warning them that they should step up security of the Capitol.

@blepharon

But despite hypocrisy we should at least endeavor to correct the factual record.

At the least that's one way to call out hypocrisy that can really live in the factual grey areas.

@failedLyndonLaRouchite

Yeah, I've seen the politicians selling that line about the Dems helping the GOP, but we shouldn't buy it.

Is it really so important to keep the House shut down to, what, make the GOP look bad? What exactly is the motivation there?

Sounds like cutting off the nose to spite the face.

Democrats are that uninterested in opening the House?

@ZuriBella

I mean I don't know what country you are asking about, but it doesn't really matter where you live, the Rules of the House are available to anybody, right there on the internet, so anybody who's interested can see for themselves how this process works.

Democrats don't need to vote for the Republican choice, but so long as they vote for their own choice instead of answering "present" they are adding to the number of votes that need to be overcome to move forward.

Each representative has to decide for himself whether keeping the House shut down is the right way to go, and we see how they are voting unanimously, helping the fringe Republicans in their bargaining position.

@blepharon

In the US, by both the Constitution and by law implementing the Constitutional design, a candidate doesn't win or lose an election until the EC vote has finished counting by the joint session of Congress.

There's not really a day of election of president in the US since the EC election process lasts a little while with a few different steps. It takes a little bit of time, again by law.

One unfortunate thing was that all too many politicians and reporters were flat out denying that these laws existed even as they were being implemented and even as they are perfectly accessible to anybody who knows where to look them up.

Such people really did a disservice to the general public, and I only had to laugh when recently some politicians were bragging about making reforms two laws that they previously seemed to say didn't exist in the first place.

@ZuriBella

No that's not how the House of Representatives works.

Every single representative gets to choose on their own, on behalf of their constituents, how to vote. That is so important for us holding our representatives accountable for their actions.

The House doesn't operate by party. That would get in the way of representatives' jobs of representing us.

So no, it's not up to Republicans to figure out what the chamber is going to do. It's up to all of the representatives, regardless of party, to figure out what they're going to do, and so far Democrats have been voting unanimously that they would rather keep the chamber from moving forward.

The sad thing is that many Democrats have been overtly saying that they are voting this way for partisan reasons. Shutting down the House for partisan reasons.

I hope their constituencies appreciate their choice.

@doctorcdf

Or he could save some money by discouraging fellow Democrats from voting for gridlock.

If just a few of them answered present instead of pushing a different candidate like the fringe Republicans the whole situation would be resolved and the House could open.

I just really think we need to emphasize that the Democrats are voting in lockstep with the fringe Republicans to keep the chamber closed here.

@MarvinFreeman

It turns out they are not a homogeneous group.

Some have articulated what they want, and there have been efforts to meet them in the middle or even give them exactly what they want. Some of the proposals aren't particularly out there. There is some criticism that they should have spoken up earlier, though.

Others of them don't seem to have any idea what they're talking about, any idea what they actually want, and just keeps spewing bumper sticker slogans.

It's almost a shame to lump the first category in with the second.

@ZuriBella

I really don't care about Republicans, but I do care that Democrats are choosing to keep the House of Representatives closed by voting with fringe Republicans against the more moderate choice for Speaker.

And really, if all of the Republicans are extremists without an agenda, fine, let them own that. Let them be proud that they are keeping the House closed.

They should at least be honest about it.

@cwnidog

If you're referring to the Speaker elections, Democrats participated in every single vote and sided in lockstep with friends Republicans against reopening the House.

And they need to be held accountable for that.

@failedLyndonLaRouchite

On the other hand, I think it's been amazingly notable over their years how lockstep the voting has been on the Democrat side, while the Republican side has seemed much more comfortable with diversity of thought.

I don't know what the lesson there is. Maybe don't judge books by covers? Maybe it's more about the people who elect the different parties? Maybe some sort of statistical averaging? Not sure.

But watching Democrats vote in lockstep this week has really driven that observation home.

@fkamiah17 @msmith1047 It's not only allowed, it's required by the rules.

The Rules of the House say that at this point in the process they are required to be in the process of voting every single moment that they are in session. They are required by the rules to continuously vote.

One way to think about it is that the next task in the queue is to vote for Speaker, so they have to do it unless they want to change the queue, but changing the queue requires a Speaker, sooooo...

They aren't voting over and over again because people want to. They're doing it because that is the required process.

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@lilliassh

That would cause a lot of problems down the road because it would be a Speaker trying to manage votes of a chamber opposed to him. It would mean this gridlock on into the future.

But Democrats are free to vote present which would also end the gridlock in a way that has a speaker aligned with the majority.

@ZuriBella

It isn't Dems helping Republicans pick someone.

It's breaking ties with fringe Republicans and choosing to oppose them, opening the House for business.

A few Democrats merely have to answer "present" and the fringe Republican impasse would collapse.

That's not helping anybody pick anybody. It's just getting out of the way of progress.

@kingsley

Because maybe the people that have been elected to serve in the House of Representatives might want to actually do that?

For a party supposedly full of problem solvers, it's pretty weird that the party is voting in lockstep to maintain the problem, taking the side of fringe Republicans to choose to keep the chamber from functioning.

@kingsley

I mean, the weird way that Democrats seem so eager to toe the line and conform is kind of something that a lot of us have been criticizing them for increasingly over the decades.

Yeah they stick together. Sometimes to an extent that just looks off-putting if not unhealthy.

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