volkris @volkris@qoto.org
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
Joined Dec 2022
It's so funny, the idea of congresspeople blocking debt ceiling increases, as it presumes some right to have it raised.
No, it's the other way around, with representatives of the people having the control to decide to issue more debt should they find it to be in the public interest.
@atomicpoet well @SrRochardBunson for one, right here in this thread, which is the whole point!
But I see it all the time in the news feed here, people excited to be on this new platform and highlighting benefits that don't quite exist.
Like I said, a lot of people simply don't understand how this platform works as the themselves were mislead, and that's dangerous.
I always highlight the particular danger of people not realizing just how insecure this whole thing is and posting private content without realizing that it's being broadcast publicly.
We need honest descriptions of this platform, both the good and the bad, so people can make informed decisions about how (and if) they use it.
@Tweetfiction
The appointment was following well-established procedures that just make common sense: there is an inherent conflict of interest when the DOJ is investigating their boss.
In the US system it's effectively the president investigating himself.
So the US has developed the idea of special councils to at least try to have some independence when an investigation is deemed substantial.
It **should** be Congress doing the investigating, though, as that's why it has independent branches of government providing oversight in the first place.
But this is exactly my point.
People are selling #Mastodon and #Fediverse using claims like the one you described, but it's not actually true.
I don't know if you know this or not, maybe you got taken in with the misleading marketing yourself, but you can't actually run your own instance from your house and communicate with the rest of Fediverse without ads or algorithms.
From natural limits of federation through instance owners actively blocking other instances you cannot communicate with the rest of the system from your own instance. That is not how this platform works, and anybody saying otherwise is misrepresenting it.
And there are algorithms and ads here.
So these huge selling points are lies. I'm just going to be blunt about that.
This system is fine. It has some positives and some negatives, and as we bring over new users let's just be honest about both.
No, you won't be able to communicate with the entire platform, and that's okay because you'll be able to communicate with enough. Maybe.
It was quite a while ago.
Do you remember hearing about the whole Cambridge Analytica scandal? As I recall that was all based on a third party Facebook app that collected data from users and then used the data in ways that people didn't like, in ways that Facebook had no control over.
A long time ago there were all sorts of third party games and other social media apps that could set up shop on Facebook and interact with you right from your Facebook news feed.
Just for example, there was one that I actually liked and actually missed when it went away. It took your list of friends and friend of friends to generate a graph on a circle to show the linkages between them. It was really neat to see how the clusters of friends set up, and also the surprising connections between friends in different groups that you never would have guessed.
But yeah, a lot of the apps were just garbage quizzes.
Remember when #Facebook really reigned in access by third parties? It didn't lose the platform all that much with the general public, and MAY have even made it more popular since some of those third party applications weren't exactly top-notch.
I don't think the general public really knows or cares about third party apps.
And of course there are times when different groups take advantage of that lack of knowledge to sow confusion and promote their stories.
@craigpc As the article describes the case, it's not about hamstringing the right to strike, but rather allowing people who damage equipment to be held liable for that damage.
And this is apparently the pro-union take on the case.
It sounds like the union would be free to strike, they just couldn't damage other people's property and be legally shielded from responsibility for it.
I'd say it might even be better for unions if the public didn't perceive them as having such shield from accountability. It would be better PR, at least, in a time when so many are skeptical of unionization.
When you describe it as a meme to get people excited as an alternative to having them stay at Twitter and Facebook, then to me, that counts as marketing.
Getting people excited about doing something based on a picture that is substantially false, that's an issue to me.
No different than if some Facebook cheerleader started putting out memes about how people should drop Fediverse for Facebook because Facebook is so much safer than those distributed punks.
Get people excited with an honest portrayal of the platform, and if the platform isn't good enough to be excited about, well then.
That's quite the theory. What do you base it on?
Attracting users through deceptive advertising isn't exactly taking a high road, and that's not even getting into the practical aspects that WILL have users putting their data and content at risk in the process.
If we have to lie to get users to move to this platform, then #Facebook and #Twitter aren't looking so bad.
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When playing Marry, Fuck, Kill, I always marry the person who seems most likely to be accepting of the adultery and murder I'll also be engaging in. I want that marriage to last.
Oh gosh I so strongly disagree with SO MUCH in that article.
From the paternalistic, top down tone through the overlooking of different talents of different people--technical vs social--I think it is really flying off in the wrong direction.
If that sort of attitude is to guide Fediverse development, then this whole platform is doomed as a pipe dream.
@SrRochardBunson @Tweetfiction @atomicpoet The thing is, when you say Absolutely 100%.... Well, it's not actually absolute around here. That's just the marketing.
In reality, there IS an algorithm. "Show the firehose in chronological order" *is* an algorithm, just a particularly dumb one, for better or worse.
And it can be taken advantage of to, for example, show ads. Which this platform is happy to support.
This is not the absolute utopia it's being presented as, and it's kind of important not to paper over the major downsides of this platform, especially as it comes to privacy.
@david_megginson : network effects.
This is probably a pretty neutral summary of the story that hasn't gotten as much international attention as I'd have expected.
The timing of these embarrassing revelations about the mishandling of classified material does not reflect well on Biden. Read the story: https://r...
@SrRochardBunson @kidehen @atomicpoet
Nah, because self-hosting still leaves you with these walls between yourself and end users you'd like to be in touch with.
Even if I self-host, I'm still reliant on every instance owner sitting between me and every one of those users.
Plus, self-hosting defeats the self-organizing community building that is one of the only features of the instance model, of people wandering to instances they like and thus seeding them with mutually-liked content.
Number 1, I wouldn't say those words :)
The whole point is to not bother the user with all that stuff, so why bring it up in the marketing?/
Number 2, Mastodon's success thus far shows that "decentralized" is not the dealbreaker, even though I'd argue that the platform is not.
I really think so much comes down simply to a well-done UI that more or less hides machinery from the user.
For example, in my mind public key encryption should be core to all of this, and yet various instant messenger clients have managed to make end to end encryption accessible to masses without them having to know the term "signing key" at all.
FWIW, I really think mass adoption just comes down to creating a user experience that isn't actually all that big a hurdle to overcome.
But maybe I'm too optimistic :)
@paul , if you care to, can you give a brief description of the advantages of #inoreader over #feedly?
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
Joined Dec 2022
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