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@ceoln

No what makes it accurate is that it is truthful!

@Bullix

I notice that you did not reply with a specific benefit.

I mean there are so many things wrong with your comment, but I want to keep focus on that one particular request.

@Alexandrad1

You have both complaints factually backwards.

It's funny because even these news organizations are admitting that they are state-funded--and seriously who even denies that?--as they maintain that the state funding they receive is small.

It's one thing to say we should be clear that the funding is a small part of the budget. It's another to deny that they funding they received doesn't happen.

@Leisureguy

That story has been debunked already as the court pointed out that he is neither getting millions in gifts nor is the party someone who has an active interest in court decisions, which is exactly why this has already been considered and rejected as a concern.

And the Supreme Court does have their own codes, which are the ones that Thomas had third parties consult when they cleared him of these issues.

There's just so much factually wrong with this conspiracy theory, above and beyond even the sensationalized story ProPublica is trying to sell once again.

@Leisureguy

He said he'd report it now that the guidelines on reporting have been changed.

Seriously, there's no need to reach for the dramatic story. They only serve to obscure what's actually going on.

It's pretty funny that two big dramatic things in right now is Thomas taking vacations with friends (how dare he not disclose that?!) and NPR accepting money from the US government (how dare disclose that?!).

Well, funny might not be the right word.

It's sad. But this is Fediverse.

@ceoln

Well personally I do want to know when government is funding a news organization at all, no matter how little the government might be contributing to the bottom line.

It's always a conflict of interests, even if one might say it's only a small amount of money.

And hell, if it is so little money, I'd say and should simply stop taking it. If the funding is so insignificant, why open themselves up to that conflict of interest at all?

So yeah, this label is accurate, and if you have a more communicative label I'm interested since I haven't really been able to think of one.

@JasonPerseus

A CARPORT?! Yeah, you've got him now!

Seriously, it's amazing how far Propublica is trying to stretch this story.

@OGjester seriously?

You have a pretty low bar for supervilliany.

@murshedz

@Leisureguy

What law did he break?

The Court says he consulted legal council who cleared his dealings with Crow as legal.

And Propublica has a long history of sensationalizing stories based on misleading and cherrypicked claims.

@Bullix

Yes, but where is the specific benefit that Crow traded for the scheme you're imagining?

All of these claims come across as nutty conspiracy theory without that part filled in.

@ceoln

You say government funded is ambiguous, and I say, YES, EXACTLY!

The most obvious interpretation is that the funding is significant? No, the label is ambiguous, so it would be foolish for a person to interpret it that way.

It's not inaccurate, it is in fact accurate. You're complaining that some people may jump to inaccurate misinterpretations of an accurate label, but that doesn't make the label itself inaccurate.

Anyway, honest question, how would you phrase a label to more clearly represent the amount of government funding that the org gets? I haven't been able to come up with one.

@ceoln

No it's completely accurate. That they receive a small amount of government funding just confirms that they receive government funding.

So yeah, like you said, state affiliated was misleading and they improved the label, and now they are complaining about the improved label.

They are not taking the high road in this case.

@evan @boris

Sounds like you are focused on promoting Fediverse, but how do you address the arguments that Bluesky has better technology?

Personally I don't care so much about picking a team and cheering for it. I want the better technology to come out ahead.

volkris boosted

I’ve found the BlueSky team to be very purposeful. It’s not run or owned by Jack, it’s not Jack’s thing, although he is on the board (it’s a Public Benefit Corporation in the US).

Jay Graber is the CEO & founder who fought for it to be independent of Twitter & calling it Jack’s thing erases her. It’s not great.

It’s another open protocol that makes different trade offs than ActivityPub.

I wrote more about the protocol and open source code earlier cosocial.ca/@boris/11014972770

Given their positioning as presenters of education and truth, and sure are reacting aggressively to the simple statement that they receive government funding.

Seems like they ought to be embracing that.

@MadMadMadMadRN

Given the speed at which Twitter was hemorrhaging money, I don't think that was ever an option.

@shansterable@c.im @GJGreenlea

Well what exactly would the charges be?

@davidbloomberg

It's like the meme, that was always an option.

The two guys thought so little of their jobs as representatives that they broke chamber rules and left their constituents without representation in the legislature.

If their constituents were fine with that, then sure, they were always able to send the same knuckleheads back.

Seems like a bad idea to me, but that's democracy, and they get the government they want.

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