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@AnneTheWriter1

The downside risk to calling for a national standard is that the standard might be a bad one :)

It's the all the eggs in one basket issue.

But to this point, it's easier to find strong consensus on a state by state basis considering the diversity between regions and communities in the US.

It will be hard to build a good national consensus here. It's much easier to build that at the state level. And maybe, the state experiences can help shape a national consensus over time, but only if the states do start out with the job.

@barney@mas.to @Tengrain @TonyStark @edwardchampion@universeodon.com @GreenFire @JamesBazan @mentallyalex@beige.party

@GottaLaff

I mean, we should all be a bit concerned about the implications that Congress is threatening the independence of the judiciary with this pursuit.

I'm glad to see Crow's people standing up for that notion, even if it's because he has a personal interest in supporting that key to the federal design.

@emptywheel

@strypey

Should he sacrifice for his baby?
Well, that's really up to him.

But in the end it's worth owning that choice.

@leighms

With the security focus of those chat apps this is a good time to remind people that fediverse is emphatically, to its core, insecure.

All content put into the system is effectively broadcast publicly no matter what audience setting you select.

To answer your question directly, I don't think there can be an equivalent just because the two use cases are so different, private communication versus public posting.

@strypey

You're basically making excuses at that point, trying to spin away the point, which is that it hasn't taken off.

That the guy didn't acquire the resources to make his platform more successful starts with the recognition that the platform has not been so successful.

@NEETzsche

I think that's what the CEO was saying :)

@louis@emacs.ch @downey @null @ArneBab

@newsopinionsandviews@masto.ai

No, it's not an impossible choice.

The president must pay the debts using the funds in the Treasury.

That's not a hard choice, and the GOP didn't pass the legislation that created this situation. That was the last Congress.

@mohansus@newsie.social

We know where the money is, it's right in the Treasury where it's supposed to be.

The rest is political grandstanding.

@BlueWaver22

But Congress is NOT trying to stop him. There is no bill on the table that would tell the president not to pay the debts, and such legislation would be legally unenforceable if it even existed.

Instead, this is just about the president seeking to expand his power to borrow against the nation's credit. Congress is skeptical of giving him that power, as it should be under our system of checks and balances.

Should the president refuse to pay the lawful debts, that would be grounds for impeachment in my view, so he really should stop threatening it.

@dsacer

So that would refuse to raise the debt ceiling unless EVs were subsidized?

Speaking of hostage taking...

@hulavikih

Congress didn't make it illegal to research gun deaths. That is certainly researched even today.

But really, this is apples and oranges. Cars are far, far different from guns.

@AnneTheWriter1

The problem is that those clear majorities of voters don't actually exist when it comes down to specifics.

For example, you may get a ton of people to agree that some abortion should be available, but once you start asking about particular methods, specific limitations on length into pregnancy, and other guidelines, disagreements show up, and the apparent consensus breaks down.

All that has happened around abortion reflects that political reality, that people have honest disagreements over abortion, and the only way to resolve the issue is to work to build actual agreement, which is unlikely to be possible.

@barney@mas.to @Tengrain @TonyStark @edwardchampion@universeodon.com @GreenFire @JamesBazan @mentallyalex@beige.party

@gunchleoc

Yeah, randomized server is pretty much the only alternative I could think of, but then you get into issues of the centralized list, who can be on it, what happens when there's drama over a server that the devs don't control, etc.

Sure, it's an option, but it, too, has downsides.

At least it is an alternative solution to the problem, though.

@null @louis@emacs.ch @downey

@NEETzsche and @ArneBab sure, but I wonder how many users are in that position, with such established communities to follow.

Twitter-type users have always struck me as particularly lacking in community. From the way they talk, the whole world is their community... which is to say, they have no community :)

And I see SO MANY people here echoing the same perspective, referring to the whole Fediverse as their community.

Yeah, instances reflecting communities sounds like a nice ideal to me, but I don't think that experience is the norm among users.

@louis@emacs.ch @downey @null

@liztai

Ha, see I like it when someone doing something good for me has a profit motive. It means they're more likely to keep at and not get bored and wander off.

That's why I pay my doctor :)

So long as they produce a system that's open and resistant to capture I hope they can make all the money they want, so it doesn't turn into yet another half-finished hobby project.

@liztai

Well it's a big issue that these are designed decisions that go to the core of the protocol. These are how they are engineered in the first place.

It's like saying, yeah we decided to build a dump truck, but can we make it a sports car? Can we make this giant massive dump truck go really really fast?

The answer is no. Without completely ripping out and redoing the core of the protocol, without alienating everybody who has already bought into the protocol, that change can't be made.

ActivityPub made its choices that can't really be taken back now.

And we live in a world where a whole lot of best protocols didn't win. That's just how it goes.

@liztai

ActivityPub is all about instances. All the power goes to instances. For example, if you want to move from one to the other you have to rely on the instance you are leaving to support the redirect to your new home.

Bluesky is more focused on users so it doesn't matter where you were, people will find you at your new home.

@failedLyndonLaRouchite

Disagree.

When you're ordering from Amazon and avoiding all human contact you get away from psychology but still have to deal with math in terms of everything from cost per unit through interest rates on the credit card that's going to be charged.

@bastianallgeier

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