volkris @volkris@qoto.org
Since I guess everything is political these days, I'll identify as extremely liberal but without a home in US politics.
Mainly, there's so much misinformation out there that people in society have trouble even organizing into coherent political groupings. So I'd rather not talk about politics but instead focus on information and education. Nothing else matters until the bedrock of fact is buttressed.
But... people are always going to be wrong on the internet, as the saying goes.
So: Old man yells at clouds is a famous joke from The Simpsons, and it probably fairly describes what we do when venting on social media.
Just speaking into the void, since I figure it's an exercise in futility to conduct discussions on these platforms.
Joined Dec 2022
It’s not up to Biden, though.
The student loan forgiveness is already illegal since Congress included those loan payments as part of the appropriations law passed last Congress (and so many congresses before).
Students owe money to the US government. The president can no more forgive than than he can simply not collect taxes one year.
US Senator promotes a conspiracy theory instead of doing his job to fix the laws.
We really need to be pushing back against this stuff to hold powerful senators accountable, to vote them out, to get the legal reforms that the country desperately needs.
Keep in mind that many conservatives believe the work requirements are mainly about getting people into the workforce, not about saving money, so this might not matter to them.
Context: Grassley was talking about making sure the FBI properly and fairly investigated allegations, whether they were true, even if they turned out to be false.
It was a positive statement, calling on the FBI to be fair, even if the outcome was favorable for Biden.
Unlike this out of context snippet of a quote.
For anyone who comes across this and wants to check the standard, #ActivityPub counts boosts as the announce action.
Extreme right wing? Sotomayor and Kagan agreed with the decision!
When the liberals on the bench are backing the decision but you still hear the decision described as extreme right wing you can see how utterly disconnected from reality all of this bashing of the #SCOTUS has become.
It’s a real lesson for people not to believe the rhetoric they’re being exposed to. So much of it is outright, unabashedly false.
Here’s the decision. Read it for yourself. And then if anyone tells you things that run counter to what you’ve read yourself, you know not to trust those people in the future.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-1449_d9eh.pdf
That’s exactly it. The procedures and laws ARE being used here, and the union tried to have those halted.
SCOTUS said nope, those laws and procedures still stand.
US politics
But they both voted for the Consolidated Appropriations Act that set the stage for this.
Had they not passed that, this wouldn’t have even been an issue, and many believe it was part of a botched strategy to set up such a showdown.
I mean, or maybe he simply follows the reasoning that he spells out publicly year after year in the opinions released by the Supreme Court?
This stuff strikes me as trying really hard for sensationalist drama, that undermines the Supreme Court, instead of simply looking at the straightforward explanation.
volkris
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No, I don’t know who you have been listening to, but that’s just not correct.
The current dispute is over the borrowing limit, which has nothing to do with the budget cap. The budget cut was set in legislation passed by the last Congress and signed by the president already.
And you can see that this is not about obligations since the deal worked out with Biden rescinds spending authority. If it was about obligations then that couldn’t happen. The deal they worked out debunks the idea that this is about obligations.
@cathyginter@universeodon.com
Jesus, is Jeffries unaware that they were Democrats who voted for this situation in the first place when they passed the Consolidated Appropriations Act, and then the executive branch threatening default?
Does he not know basic civics about how the federal government works?
Or is he just counting on his audience not knowing?
What? Democrats were the hostagetakers here.
It was their Consolidated Appropriations Act, that they passed against Republican opposition, and Biden’s spending, that put the country into this position.
Republicans voted a way out of the mess they made, the hostage situation they faced.
Key phrase: “165 Democrats - more than the 149 Republicans who voted for it - backed the measure and pushed it through”
But it was a lurch to the left that threatened default: Democrats and Biden passed the Consolidated Appropriations Act that set this situation up, and then Biden threatened a default unless he was given expanded borrowing power.
Those on the far right demanded a lot to clean up the mess, and moderates won the day, solving the problem caused by the left while squashing demands of the extreme right.
There was a lurch to the left in this controversy followed by a return to the center despite the demands of the right.
I just hope people notice how the rescission clauses in bill pretty much debunk the rhetoric we’ve been fed for months about how this is about paying our bills.
Those of us who are familiar with that term and familiar with how federal financing works have been trying to spread the word that politicians are either lying or ignorant about how their own government works.
(Take your pick)
If the debt ceiling was about paying bills then rescission would leave bills unpaid, so it wouldn’t be a solution.
But BECAUSE those aren’t bills to be paid, because it’s merely spending authority, not actual spending, rescission helps solve the gridlock.
The press has really carried the administration’s water, misleading the public on this one.
@alfredo_liberal@universeodon.com
You’re misunderstanding, talking like there’s one central organization that should be deciding who runs or doesn’t run.
No, #Republicans are absolutely aware of what you’re bringing up. Mainstream conservatives have been talking about it for a year.
It ends up being an issue of each candidate thinking that yeah, it’s bad when there’s too many candidates, so all of THOSE OTHERS should drop out.
Everyone knows there should be only one strong challenger. The problem is that all of the serious challengers believe they’re the one that should stay.
There’s game theory in there.
That’s not how federal financing works, though.
The shortfall has nothing to do with taxes since the president already signed legislation that countenanced this level of taxation, which along with his spending, lead to this shortfall.
Biden already accepted this level of taxation. He put his pen to paper approving it through the CAA… which was passed over GOP objections, mind you.
So at this point the president is demanding power to borrow more because the bill he signed was mathematically unworkable given the level of taxation he accepted alongside his level of spending.
Taxation is not the problem here. It has nothing to do with this dispute.
No, it’s the exact opposite.
The Supreme Court unanimously–conservative and liberal sides–voted to reinforce the Clean Water Act, pointing out that the EPA was misreading the Act.
They were emphatic that the CWA must be enforced as passed by the democratic system in the US.
See for yourself straight from the Court to bypass these reporters with axes to grind:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-454_4g15.pdf
Since I guess everything is political these days, I'll identify as extremely liberal but without a home in US politics.
Mainly, there's so much misinformation out there that people in society have trouble even organizing into coherent political groupings. So I'd rather not talk about politics but instead focus on information and education. Nothing else matters until the bedrock of fact is buttressed.
But... people are always going to be wrong on the internet, as the saying goes.
So: Old man yells at clouds is a famous joke from The Simpsons, and it probably fairly describes what we do when venting on social media.
Just speaking into the void, since I figure it's an exercise in futility to conduct discussions on these platforms.
Joined Dec 2022
