volkris @volkris@qoto.org
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
Joined Dec 2022
@LoriQuaid Well right, that's the key: we should always emphasize that without Senate approval any agreement is simply a handshake agreement from the president that has no binding for the next one.
It's weird how many countries don't seem to understand how that works. Or they pretend not to understand. Either way.
We should all emphasize to the world that without an actual treaty it's just what the current president personally thinks and the next one is free to do otherwise.
@walkman meh I guess I'm not assuming anything.
I'm saying they could have had a victory if they wanted to, but Western allies behaved in a way that they did not.
If you ask me, I guess I would assume that they would have wanted one, but regardless, whether they wanted a victory or not they didn't operate in a way that would get one.
@realcaseyrollins I'm under the impression that the US did enter an obligation to protect Ukraine in exchange for their giving up nukes.
But even that doesn't really matter.
The US decided to spend a lot of money and resources to defend Ukraine, but Biden wasted that, trickling it out and putting limits on its use. Had he simply provided it without limitation all at once it would be a very different story today.
I think the US was obligated, but regardless of whether it was or not, the US decided to engage, but it engaged in a strategically flawed way, and we really need to call the president out for that.
He botched it. He continued to botch it. We can't take back what has happened over the last 2 years, but we should recognize how badly it was botched.
@davidho It's a bit of a conspiracy theory.
If nothing else, to be clear, the president doesn't have the authority to just turn off the NOAA unilaterally.
And so all of these breathless headlines are just dumb. They're just sensationalized, and misreporting to their readers.
@realcaseyrollins with the help of Western allies they absolutely could have.
Unfortunately, the Western allies dropped the ball and screwed it up. We should hold them accountable for that.
Folks like Biden snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
@realcaseyrollins she filed her paperwork, and it's going to be ignored rightfully, like a cop filing paperwork for charging someone with speeding when they were actually going well below the speed limit @icedquinn
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@ArneBab Well my source tends to be linked below. I'm sorry AOC doesn't seem to have the vaguest idea of how the US government actually operates.
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript
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@ArneBab My point is that we should stop listening to sources that are wrong. There are so many sources out there that are telling us misinformation because it gets clicks, and we need to stop listening to them. We need to call them out for being sources of misinformation.
Elections are state matters, not Federal. The Supreme Court is not really involved. Anyone trying to tell a story about the Supreme Court getting involved here is misleading you Aunt we need to stop listening to these outfits that are selling stories that are just outright false.
@realcaseyrollins No, AOC is a moron so you should not read too much into anything that she does.
She just really does not know how the government works at all, she's just a celebrity, so I guess look to her for lipstick recommendations but beside that, yeah she doesn't know what she's talking about.
So maybe the key is to consider, who gets to review the impeachment? Who gets to appeal? If a president is impeached, what does he get to do?
The answer is nothing. There is no appeal. It's not like a normal Court proceeding where the defendant gets to appeal to a higher court to review the record as he is on his way to jail.
No, the way this is set up there is no appeal, whatever our elect ed representatives decide is final.
Aunt if you think about it that means that the people that we elect can impeach for any reason that they think is justified because there is no higher power to reverse it.
Of course you can. They can impeach anybody for any reason. We elect our representatives, and the people that we choose to elect, we are hiring them to decide whether to impeach anybody. That's one of the powers that they get with their offices.
If you think they should have impeached but they didn't, then hold them accountable for that. If you think they should not have impeached but they did, again, hold them accountable for that.
The decision is purely up to them. They have that lever to pull if they want to and we hold them accountable for whether they do or they don't.
@realTuckFrumper boy she's dumb.
No you can punish judges for being wrong. That's why we have the impeachment option. It's the entire point of that.
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@ArneBab No it absolutely did not.
That's not how the legal system works in the US, so anyone who told you that they did is lying.
I hate to keep beating this drum but that really is what it comes down to, certain special interests putting out information that is flat out the opposite of what is really happening. And we need to call them out on it and we need to stop listening to them.
@JaniceOCG No you have that backwards.
These prosecutors violated law with their faulty prosecutions. Blame them for not getting their acts together.
@Phracker2Art No, that's not how this works at all.
It's really the opposite, in fact.
Recent rulings demand that laws be followed and not effectively repealed by the executive branch.
So much misinformation out there these days, and this is an example of it. It's the exact opposite of what it sounds like you've heard, so you need to stop listening to those people that are lying to you.
@SETSystems@defcon.social those nutty conspiracy theories need to be called out for what they are.
It's BS.
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@ArneBab The balloting is a state issue, not Federal, so not really a Supreme Court issue.
@abbistabbii The problem is, that's factually not what happened.
@LouisIngenthron and Trump is absolutely being held to the law with the state court cases. So what in the world are you talking about?
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
Joined Dec 2022
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