volkris @volkris@qoto.org

@ginaintheburg I was hoping to find someone interested in discovering what's happening in the country, and looking for solutions to the problems that we all face, but you've already shown that you're not interested in that either.

So, I don't mind matching insult with insult. Yay social media!

@everton137 you have to ask the people running the instance deciding on the block.

It's completely up to their personal opinions, and they don't have to tell you why they put up the block. But maybe if you ask they'll let you know.

@ginaintheburg so, like, you don't think people vote for representatives? Do you think United States doesn't hold elections? Do you think all elections are rigged in the US?

Do you believe the entire US government to be the result of some Grand conspiracy, installed without legitimacy?

Honestly, if you are going to go that far to say completely, then you might as well give up trying to change anything because at that point there is no real government to address at all.

@rootwoman123

The answer is by by not caving into that kind of nonsense around how all of this works.

There is so much misinformation about the Supreme Court out there, and about how the judicial system of the US works in general, and this kind of article doesn't help clarify the situation to people.

It doesn't matter what the federal judges think, if they don't understand what's going on then they're not really fit for office and that's a different problem.

But they do have to obey the decisions higher up in the chain.

It's like an employee that doesn't understand the manager, well maybe that employee isn't really fit for the job, but regardless, they still have to obey their boss or they should quit.

@aka_quant_noir

One problem is that this basically undermines one of the three branches of federal government, rolling the Supreme Court into the legislative branch, and allowing a ton of misbehavior from that branch to oversee its own behaviors.

It allows the legislative branch to pass unconstitutional laws by setting up the appeals courts to elect Supreme Court Justices that it favors.

It sets up a conflict of interests and undermines checks and balances in exactly the sort of way that the US government structure was avoiding.

@ChrisMayLA6 The problem is, there's no way to make sure the people don't have guns.

Literally, that is not an option. It doesn't even matter how lawmakers May vote, or what presidents may do, or whatever hopes and prayers people may have about people not having guns. That ship has sailed, people do and will have guns.

So given that reality, the question is what do we do from here?

People will have guns. We have to start from that fact.

@ginaintheburg

Well, where?

@zalasur If that was true he wouldn't be pushing to get government reopen...

@Crystal_Fish_Caves It's because his brain has turned to mush.

His heart might still be pumping blood up to that brain, but that brain has sunk into senility.

@CharlieMcHenry The international news came out hours before Trump's announcement.

Even if this person was trading based around that event, it was foreseeable using public information.

@ginaintheburg and yet the point remains that Trump doesn't get a vote.

Firstly, it's not true that Trump backed candidates are such a luck. The guy is quite a loser.

But more importantly, the only way a challenger will win is because the voters want the other guy. And so this is, in the end, representatives representing their constituents, not Trump.

And that's critical.

That's how the legislative branch works. They answer to their voters, not to Trump. If their voters would replace them for voting a certain way, well, they're right to listen to that under our representative system.

It's still between representatives and the voters who empower the representatives to represent them.

@someguy Republicans voted to keep government open.

Democrats voted to block the funding legislation from coming up for final passage.

It's all right there in the voting roles, and if those Democratic politicians think it's for the best that's fine, but they need to own their votes.

@ginaintheburg

Trump shut down? Wrong branch of government. The legislative branch is having appropriations legislation blocked, and the executive branch doesn't get a vote in that.

@Ultraverified stealing what money?

There isn't money appropriated to be stolen, and that's the whole problem.

Democrats are blocking consideration of the legislation that would provide the appropriations, and without the appropriations there is nothing to steal.

@rdfranke Red State America is responsible for the shutdown is a ridiculous statement when the ones blocking the vote on funding legislation are from blue states.

@ike I don't think you're considering the structure of the US government with different branches and representatives answering to their own constituents.

This isn't like two teams on a football field. These are the divergent interests of different actors and different roles, not people taking orders from political parties.

It's an unrealistic view of government, but unfortunately it supports gridlock to insist on viewing the world that way.

The US government was intentionally designed to put the executive branch at odds with the legislative branch, and that's exactly what we're seeing play out with the firings.

@TerryHancock

Yeah that one to me seems most intuitive of these options, but far from great.

Unfortunately in the general public the @ has been rendered confused by the social media use of it.

Thanks, Twitter. :)

A new convention is needed.

@evan

@mick is it, though?

@tylerknowsnothing made her intentions unmistakable? No I think this right up actually mistakes them.

Employees justifying their positions is not exactly rare. Yes, if you want to collect a paycheck you need to be bringing value to justify it.

It comes across as kind of disconnected from the real world to see this request as something malign, or as a loyalty pledge.

In the real world, this is just normal for an organization to make sure it's using its resources wisely and sustainably.