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@jackhutton

It's funny to see a statement that the Thomases offer an example of malfeasance when I'm still waiting for anybody to offer an actual example of the Thomases committing malfeasance with regard to their actual jobs.

It's amazing that with all of the sensationalist headlines, the thing I never ever see is an actual reference to a place where the actual decision of Thomas was wrong. That is the job of the Supreme Court, to issue opinions, but no one ever actually talks about places where the opinions were actually wrong.

It's all this reality TV drama that just distracts from anything that could be seen as actual malfeasance.

@politico

@unkn0wn

But it doesn't matter. No matter how reasonable or unreasonable the Supreme Court may be, they just don't have the authority to order around the Treasury as that exists in the executive branch.

There would be no constitutional crisis. The order lacking authority would simply go in the trash can, and that would be that.

@RememberUsAlways

It's pretty simple. The Constitution says that the president can't borrow without permission of Congress, and that law was an example of Congress giving permission.

This is just enacting the clear text of the Constitution.

@jackhutton

I mean you can say there are no checks and balances until your face goes blue, but it cannot change the fact that there are checks and balances.

You are spouting conspiracy theories here. And it does no good.

@politico

@jackhutton

There are so many reasons that is a stupid thing to say.

Bought a Supreme Court Justice? As if that makes any sense at all, one of many justices, with the checks and balances in place already to make sure that no justice can be bought and impact the rest of the legal system? Not to mention the role of the judicial branch in the US system of government?

No. That doesn't make any sense at all. It is idiotic to even suggest such a thing, and I'm not mincing words here because, seriously, that is an idiotic thing to say.

That conspiracy theory makes no sense considering the design of the US government, and anybody who believes such a thing does not know how the US government functions.

And I'm just sad for you that you would buy into such a idiotic theory.

@politico

@jackhutton

Oooh! Sounds like you're spinning up quite the conspiracy theory! Do keep us apprised as you write your plotline!

No, we need to be calling out all of these sensationalist clickbait stories that just don't really make much sense.

My taskmaster is my own idea that we should probably call out all of this moronic reporting.

@politico

@kkarhan

Well if it helps it's because my focus tends to be on empowering users, so if Bluesky does it better job of empowering users then I think that's great.

@sam @stux

@timekiller_s

It's not about trust. It's about passing actual legislation. It's ridiculous to talk about trust in this sort of situation, it's about what will and will not be passed by the people's representatives in our democratic process.

@DemocracyMattersALot

I mean in a way he clearly did as he passed a budget that didn't have funding, that wanted to spend a lot more money than the Treasury would have.

That's the whole reason we're in this mess.

And that sounds very literally like a miscalculation.

@kkarhan

From what I see, Bluesky does better with empowering users than ActivityPub, which is a big deal to me personally.

AP really recentralizes around instances in ways that don't seem healthy to me.

@sam

@jackhutton

Yeah stonewalling, here the idea that private matters should be private, and the legislature branch should not violate judicial independence at the same time as they want to engage in political grandstanding over private matters.

Really the guy just called out congresspeople for going off the rails.

@politico

@davidfeinman

You're missing that the Constitution also assigns authority to borrow against the credit of the United States to Congress, which is really all the debt limit is, the amount that Congress has so far authorized.

And this is a pretty important authority! Congress should be involved in the issuance of debt since it's about obligating generations of Americans to repaying it. We should at least have the democratic process affirm that the country really does want to take on that debt.

So no, the debt limit is not a manufactured idea that has created an unnecessary stalemate. It is a democratic idea built into the core of the country for really good reasons, and the president needs to get on with paying debts out of the Treasury instead of fighting for more borrowing power.

The debt limit didn't create this stalemate. Political grandstanding did.

@darulharb

Exactly. The 14th says that the debt shall not be questioned, but here we have Biden and other politicians spending months questioning the debt and even threatening not to pay it, and they really need to called out on that.

This is a president explicitly threatening to violate constitutional principle, and no one seems to care.

That's not how that would work, though.

The Supreme Court in the judicial branch can't order the Treasury in the executive branch not to pay debts.

That's really up to the president as head of that branch.

@kent_j

But that's just the checks and balances that the US government was designed around, to make sure no individual or group would be able to amass too much power.

At the end of the day It was always known that it would take pretty serious negative results to force people to seek compromise despite their opposing interests.

If the president wants more power then he has to work with the legislative branch to gain it, and the threats flying back and forth are just part of that political process.

@gwfoto@newsie.social

GOP lawmakers have already voted in favor of the president's request for increased borrowing power, though.

Not to mention, the 14th Amendment doesn't give the president a choice. It's not that he should consider following the Constitution, but that he is required to follow the 14th Amendment. He can't legally turn his back on the Constitution and have the treasury just not pay debts, as he has been threatening for so long.

This whole thing has been made into such a farce.

@FeralRobots

Also, a lot of it is argument based on incomplete information about the new system.

As far as I can tell Bluesky is still working on developing documentation, so there are large parts we simply don't know about yet, but that's not stopping people from assuming.

@mackaj

Right but one issue is that users aren't aware of how insecure this platform is. I know, I've come across a few people who are really surprised when I point it out.

Yes, security is hard, but users need to know what they are getting into here, regardless of how hard it might be to design a more secure system.

@wjmaggos @atomicpoet

@LaureM

I mean, they passed the debt ceiling increase through a democratic process...

@dw@mas.to

@mackaj

That's the key. I'm just really afraid that so many users of this system don't realize and post private things they wouldn't post if they knew how it worked.

I really hate to think about users being mislead, with that false sense of security.

@wjmaggos @atomicpoet

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