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@nicemicro

Depending on how they do it behind the scenes, they might be helpfully tagging the data with an indication that it's a reply and not a post, so that it really becomes up to the client UI to decide how best to handle it.

A lot of things on Fediverse are like that, with ActivityPub protocol giving the information, but leaving it up to the user interface developer to figure out how best to serve users with the incoming data.

@prachisrivas

Also, some modified Mastodon instances have QT functionality.

This one, qoto, does.

A lot of people involved in Mastodon have extremely strong anti-QT feelings, BTW, so this is a quite dramatic topic for man.

Maybe people in the Mastodon world absolutely do not want QT available, believing that it's a blight upon speech.

I disagree with them.

@omegaman

@astroturds

If you're interested in a little more behind the scenes info on how this works, (and since I want to make a test post to see how it shows up in Lemmy):

Since there's no central clearinghouse for content in the distributed Fediverse, each instance broadcasts its users' new posts, but only to other instances that need to see that content, generally because they host at least one user interested in it.

So you'll see times when your instance won't have received any older content before its first user followed the remote account. After that, the remote instance knows to start sending content to your instance, to that user really, but then your instance knows about the content.

In other words, your instance begins its subscription to the remote account by having any user begin to follow it.

@ValueSubtracted

@goldengateblond

I think that might be giving the guy too much credit for either understanding his situation OR not actually gaining perverse pleasure out of it.

Roses are red,
The troll is fed.

@tnoisu

I think you underestimate the downside and disruption here.

It's not merely letting people know so that they can decide their own stance. Taking down communications platforms as a strategy for communicating is much more actively shoving things into peoples' faces than you frame it... and also a bit absurd?

Anyway, the might as well stay on the platform that gives them more value. For so many that won't be Fediverse, and the disruption will have been just imposition and annoyance by people with an uninteresting cause to push.
@RedditGoneWild

@marcel

Meh, I often see political donors being used as scapegoats.

At the end of the day, if you vote for the guy who does bad things because he chooses to sell out to political donors, maybe stop electing that guy.

I really always strive to emphasize voters' role in empowering officials. There's a danger to acting as if voters don't have a key place in the political process, one of those self-fulfilling claims.

If voters are convinced that they have no power, then they don't.

Meanwhile I emphasize, such and such a politician took a bribe? Well, his voters actively empowered a bribable person, and probably confirmed it by reelecting him!

@dsfgs

Oh, I see what you mean.
I thought you were talking about better enforcement to really tax peoples' Bitcoin holdings.

I don't think that will ever happen, though, specifically because it would stop them from printing money.

Another day in the multiverse of echo chambers:

Democrats smugly saying Republicans are freaking out about the indictment and Republicans smugly saying Democrats are freaking out about how he's succeeding despite them.

Know thy enemy, they say. Well, if either of these groups actually followed that advice, maybe we could settle some things.

Well, all ya can do is appreciate the absurdity.

@pinkyfloyd

This isn't something that can be solved with a little tweaking, though.

As it is, we'd expect every post to be sent to every subscribed end user, by sending a copy to each relevant instance with a list of recipients. That's the core heart of the protocol, no matter what language software may be written in, how it organizes variables to save memory or whatever.

But that requires a load that increases as # of posts * instances.

It ends up looking awfully exponential, a graph that quickly explodes with increasing use.

It's no simple feat to tweak the system to arrest such a problem of exponential scaling, but switching to single user instances only drives the explosion faster.

@Natureshadow@floss.social @bengo @lrhodes @h@mymath.rocks @smallcircles @liaizon

@lauren

They are only trustworthy if they're actually viewed, and I'm convinced they won't be.

Heck, we can see the nonsense surrounding recordings of Congress to see how that's failed to work out well.

The balance of considerations is a bit different in the representative branch, but the success of using video there to mislead would only be duplicated in the Court.

@TerryHancock

@pinkyfloyd

No, it's not an implementation issue but the design of the protocol itself, the way ActivityPub has instances address each other and send out per-instance messages.

The protocol allows bundling of messages to multiple users on one instance, but with one user per instance the messages would need to be duplicated, scaling with instance count.

@Natureshadow@floss.social @bengo @lrhodes @h@mymath.rocks @smallcircles @liaizon

@lauren

I think it would go the other way.

Already people can read opinions for themselves if they actually cared about what goes on in the courts. So few do. I don't think there's much actual appetite for using A/V to build trust over what goes on in the Court.

BUT, out of context clips of lawyers and justices mugging for the camera would likely further harm the image of the Court.

Unfortunately, given human nature and the social environment, I tend to agree that that public A/V would only farther harm the image of the Court.

@TerryHancock

@annhattan

That gets the story backwards, though, missing what the case was really about.

The state and its challengers agreed that the map was NOT gerrymandered, and that was the problem. The challengers said that the map needed to BE gerrymandered to comply with the VRA and previous court rulings.

The state proposed race-neutral maps, and the Court said no, race must be taken into account as per the law.

The question before the court was whether it's right to ignore race.

@pinkyfloyd

There are downsides to that, though, particularly when it comes to scalability, under the ActivityPub design.

Some aspects of AP scale by instance more than user, so going with one user per instance can really increase resource costs of operating the system.

@Natureshadow@floss.social @bengo @lrhodes @h@mymath.rocks @smallcircles @liaizon

@marcel

It's one of those cases where there is no perfect system, only tradeoffs among imperfect proposals.

Here, for example, you mention influence of a larger part of the voting body, but that runs counter to my preference of accountability to the smaller community over, perhaps, a national coalition.

But such goals and success metrics of any representative system are pretty subjective in the end, depending on how a person's values balance those tradeoffs of the imperfect options available.

@Arpie4Math

Sure, and that's why I emphasize that mainstream conservative media has had such a huge impact, beyond the polling.

I'd consider the polling to be only a minor indicator since it has drawbacks, which is why I'm really not so interested in tracking down specific polls. The RCP trend is plenty for my purposes when it comes to polling.
@Spicewalla @dangillmor

@sarae

If you read the opinion, that's not really what the case hinged on. It didn't really show that.

The major question was whether to consider race at all in districting. The state said they had to be race-neutral, and the Court said no, race had to be considered.

It didn't take new technologies to figure out that they could create a second majority black district. In fact, the state points out that the technological solutions to districting all generated the opposite, so long as the process was race-neutral.

Really the question here was whether to or not to gerrymander based on race. Tech didn't really change that legal question.

@ProPublica

@Danielsand

An illegal election can't elect legal representatives.

Anyone elected under an invalid system would have no legal claim to office.

It would be like me declaring myself the winner of an election and showing up to Congress. I wouldn't be admitted because I wouldn't have the legal claim to office.

Same here.

@gruntyfish@mastodon.social

Yes. Nonsensical submissions get rejected almost instantly, leaving governments without functional representative processes.

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