volkris @volkris@qoto.org

@TeamMidwest that sounds like two potentially independent ideas, though: could it be that the seeds of war aren't so firmly in language but the seeds of peace are?

For example, war over control over a piece of territory might not have much to do with language, but language might indeed help find a peaceful resolution to the dispute?

@drahardja bad news: any content you submit into Fediverse is basically broadcast into the datastores of any corporations that want to use it.

ActivityPub actually makes it harder to own data. It's very much a public broadcast medium.

@Godfrey642 Trump has been fined.

@Edelruth

Oh, no, that's not quite the argument. Both sides in the case were explicit that not everything the president does after swearing in counts as an official act to be covered under this question.

The issue brought to the Supreme Court is a lower court claiming that a former president can be prosecuted even for official acts that were perfectly legal at the time.

So as often happens, SCOTUS is sitting as a court of appeals, really judging the lower court, not the underlying case.

Nothing in this case would excuse a president from abiding by their oath of office. Anything they'd do outside of their oath would not be immune from prosecution.
@hopefulhumanizer @Nonya_Bidniss

@soaproot yeah, so to answer @feditest 's prompt, that's my thought.

Focus on testing against the things that have real world impact either today or in the near future, and that way the "shaming" of noncompliant implementations might carry more weight as more than pedantry.

Or have a separate level for basic vs perfect implementations.

@Orijewnal right, and THEN we can say the trial would have been canceled indefinitely.

So voters need to keep that in mind as they vote.

If the people are so eager to vote for Trump even though he'd end the prosecution--or even because he'd end the prosecution--then that ends up being more of a correction to a prosecution that didn't have solid public support.

But for now, the prosecution is ongoing, and if people want to see it continue they'll vote against Trump.

@Rasta a problem is that we have so many other representatives who are enabling her, and I think they need to be held accountable for that.

The important thing isn't what MTG is doing. She's a nobody on her own, and that's between her and her voters.

BUT if my representative is enabling her, I need to know that as I consider reelecting my rep.

The story isn't what MTG is doing; it's this is what MTG is doing and your representative might be giving her backing.

To just ignore the whole thing lets these misbehaving reps off the hook.

@Free_Press

@mikaylamic see, I go the other way with that.

As someone who works around such machinery in industrial settings I'm constantly annoyed that we aren't trusted to do more to get our work done, and I wish we could get away with just simply being safe in our workspace.

If Tesla is able to get away with a more reasonable balance, well, it's a breath of fresh air to see that somebody can!

@Rasta we just all need to keep in mind that a person like her is completely powerless without the backing of large numbers of other representatives willing to support her actions.

The rules of the House are particularly disempowering of individuals with nutty ideas. That was intentional because with so many representatives the chamber risked grinding to a halt.

The solution is to just ignore her, let her fail, let her look like a fool over and over who has no influence in the chamber, and if the good people of her district want such a loser to represent them, well that's really up to them.

It's only by treating MTG like she has power that she gains the influence to muck things up, and we really need to call out representatives who back her.

@Free_Press

@FantasticalEconomics If you compare voting rules before and after some of these GOP reforms, claims of the GOP working hard to prevent some groups of people from doing it don't really live up to reality.

@Orijewnal No, the trial hasn't been canceled indefinitely, it's just that the trial date that was set set turned out to be overly optimistic, and there's a lot more work to be done to prosecutor the guy before they can go to a jury.

The trial is absolutely not canceled. In fact they are continuing to work quite hard to bring it forward.

@Geoffberner keep in mind there was some, you know, voting that went on in those elections...

Far too often people seem to forget that at the core of voting are voters.

@Edelruth SCOTUS doesn't really have authority to include that in their immunity deliberations.

The question before them is whether the claimed immunity exists regardless of whether it's a good idea or not.

It's key to the democratic processes of the US government that the judicial branch doesn't override the people just because the judges think it's a bad idea.

@hopefulhumanizer @Nonya_Bidniss

@realcaseyrollins keep in mind that when talking about MTG bucking Trump it doesn't so much matter what the functional outcome is because she's not exactly working with a full deck of cards, so it's not even clear that she knows what moves would be purely symbolic in the first place.

When you listen to her public descriptions of her own actions, she really doesn't seem like she knows what her end goal is or how to get there or what the result of her actions will be.

@Kirk

@realcaseyrollins but she already did move to have him removed. She already filed the motion, even if she has now been talked down off the ledge by whatever Johnson negotiated with her.

That was one example where she broke from Trump.

@Kirk

@Incognitim Even with concurring opinions, leaving aside the opinion of the court, the concurring opinions get complicated as they address each other, so the shuffling of drafts and redrafts all to be prepared to release a stack of opinions with internal references, that's legitimately complicated.

It would be one thing if there was just a vote announced, but for a case with any complications, including purely perceived complications by a minority on the court, it just takes time, and that's unavoidable.

The immunity case is pretty complicated as the oral arguments indicated, even just noting that different members of the Court had competing visions of what they were even looking to rule on.

If they can't even agree about what they're supposed to decide, well that's a complication!

You say it's a well plowed field, but we're not even sure what field we're talking about 🙂

As for the optics of firing Garland, I think those optics would be straightforward if people better understood the way the federal government is designed, that it's up to Biden.

The optics are primarily bad to the extent that he is able to duck accountability for the actions of his underling.

@Incognitim "The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America."

We must not let any president escape accountability for the actions of the executive branch. The buck stops at Biden, not Garland.

As per the Supreme Court, so much depends on the complexity of the cases and the complexity of getting all of the members onto the same page.

It's funny that there's a popular opinion that more people should be added to the Supreme Court, and I just end up thinking, if you think it's hard to herd those cats now, wait until you have to get agreement out of twice as many for a ruling to be issued!

@bibliolater Oh to clarify, what I was referring to was a study saying that there's a lot of generation happening with literally no transmission lines to bring the generation to the rest of the world.

It was part of a call for increased investment in energy grids so they could be physically connected to the renewable generation that is currently just going to waste.

@realcaseyrollins MTG and Trump have come down differently on a few issues lately.

I mean not that it matters, they're both morons.

@Kirk