volkris @volkris@qoto.org
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
Joined Dec 2022
US pol: What is right?
@Incognitim what? No. If you read the SCOTUS ruling it says the exact opposite, that everyone is absolutely bound by law, and it explicitly lays out that Trump has to continue through the court case.
You say they 've completely done away with even The faintest notion that no one is above the law but the case itself talked about people being bound by law.
Whoever told you otherwise is lying to you.
@waldoj well what do I get wrong?
@waldoj Biden absolutely does have to do with how the federal cases are proceeding.
It's his administration. He holds responsibility for what his administration does. That is a core principle of the US system.
@Linux@kitty.social that seems really counterproductive.
You don't like the messenger so you kill the message, no matter how positive and pro-social it may be.
I just want to call out how selfish that is.
@knittingknots2 but this has always been Trump. He talks this way because, as per classical conditioning, he gets rewarded for being so mealy mouthed.
That observation isn't anything new.
The question is how he got nominated and how Democrats managed to nominate someone who even leaves him with a chance of winning.
@Tharpa I mean, when has Kamala done that though?
Yeah, Trump vomits up garbage all the time, but I'm really holding it against the Democrat party that they nominated such an incoherent speaker that leaves Trump within even striking distance of the presidency.
If only there had been a legitimate primary race so we could have chosen someone better, someone who would have steamrolled over Trump...
@Linux@kitty.social so you're going to deprive the rest of us of interesting information because you personally don't like the source?
@waldoj oh sorry, I was thinking about the other cases
Biden has been surprisingly compliant with a lot of Trump's demands.
@mikeash I mean everybody?
If Trump is saying he's going to lock up these people, he's lying, he doesn't have that authority. If other people are saying Trump is going to lock up these people they're lying too.
When you see all these groups wrestling in the mud, none of them are clean, and it's worth calling them all out for really antisocial stuff.
@servelan of course he does.
He's a hack.
He's a guy who used to be legit, used to provide reasonable advice, but in the years since he just says whatever the political winds advantage him to say, no matter how outlandish and nonsensical.
We really need to call Robert Reich out for this kind of thing these days. I really wish he had stuck to legitimate policy analysis, but he left that track long ago.
Now he just sprouts nonsense get attention, I guess.
So?
I mean he can't. EVEN IF you think he is actually threatening people like that, which sounds like sensationalized nonsense from special interests trying to mislead you, it doesn't matter, because presidents don't have that sort of power.
So he can't.
You're being lied to, and you should stop listening to whoever you're listening to because they are lying to you.
@RussCheshire @guardian it's really important to emphasize that these people do not actually hoard vast amounts of money.
These rankings do not count money. It's really important to emphasize that for anybody who cares. Personally, I don't, so I don't have a horse in this race, but if you do care, then you really really need to know that these rankings do not count money.
Musk does not have that cash. He has equity in various investments that may in theory if calculated a certain way result in that sales price, but those calculations are definitely wrong. They are just guesses.
He does not have that cash.
I really wish more people understood this because politicians constantly trick people with this sort of misleading rhetoric.
@kdawson so the other side of the aisle, The one that Trump is speaking to, their perspective is that Harris 's hopes of winning the election appear to be crumbling.
You need to realize that to interpret whatever Trump is saying.
Yes, the world is nuts. But that's what we're working with.
@waldoj The critical thing to keep in mind is that Biden's administration was on board with the move.
It's not that Trump is above the law. It's that the Democrats apparently don't care about pursuing this.
We need to hold Democrats accountable for this.
@pixel The problem is that she keeps trying to run on things that happened during Biden's administration.
You say in your opinion that she already shook it, but no, she's campaigning on doubling down on it.
That's the problem, and that's why Democrats never should have nominated her. She's stuck with it.
@gearhead the Supreme Court ruling went out of its way to say there was no blanket immunity, and it even actively promoted prosecution of criminal acts.
Yes, lots of outfits misreport that. We need to stop listening to them.
#Biden has proven himself to be incompetent at best or politically manipulative at worst.
Take the examples of court cases he lost because his strategy was clearly wrong from the outset. From student loans through prosecution of Trump, he had such a losing record because of his own unforced errors.
Or maybe he intentionally lost so he could politically grandstand and score points, even as the country was left worse off.
Unfortunately, #Harris shows no indication that she'd be any better. Looks like she'll be worse.
The #DemocraticParty really picked a crummy candidate, and had she been run through a proper primary competition maybe that could have been avoided.
@samohTmaS again, your interpretation is absolutely ridiculous if nothing else because it would allow any president, including Donald Trump, to dismiss any justice that didn't cooperate with him.
No, that's not how the US government works. That's not how any of this works.
And it's for excellent reason that the US government doesn't operate the way you're talking about, otherwise presidents have unilateral control over the courts, which absolutely violates the independence of the judicial branch.
No, you're just wrong here.
@MugsysRapSheet I don't know why you keep saying I'm trying to defend Trump. That's the opposite of my position. I'm happy to clarify that, but it seems like you don't want to hear what my position actually is.
So you have the Supreme Court ruling backwards. The Supreme Court ruling explicitly and emphatically talked about prosecuting Trump and other future ex-presidents. The Supreme Court was all for prosecuting Trump.
If the defendant wants to claim the official duties protection then they have to prove that the action was part of official duties, not the other way around.
You're getting your facts backwards here.
@acwhite Right, and they say they are protecting the voting system.
Again I agree, it seems that they do know exactly what they are doing and why, and all indications are it is to protect the voting system.
You can point to the rank and file, you can point to the lawyers, you can point to the judges, you can point to your favorite sandwich maker at your favorite sandwich shop, whatever, yeah, they do seem to be proceeding with the motivation of protecting the voting system.
Everything else comes across as a strawman argument.
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
Joined Dec 2022
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