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@mike805

In my opinion, Biden's explanation made it exponentially worse, but alternatively, it would have made it slightly better if he had resigned in the process.

I could at least appreciate an official saying, I am doing this but I recognize that it is not really fitting for the office. I cannot act neutrally here. And so as I do this, I hereby resign.

@louis

's pardon of his son crosses the line when it gives a blanket get out of jail free card to any laws his son might have violated, not just the ones we know about.

He put his son above the law. That's striking.

It's only the icing on top that he attempts to justify it by claiming persecution... by the administration that he himself was leading.

We need to be clear that this is disgraceful, as really that's the only way to hold such a person of power accountable.

Biden should be forever remembered for crap like this.

@MusiqueNow the problem is, the accusations listed, even if true, don't rise to the level of high crimes or misdemeanor.

But really, the SCOTUS records are public, and we can read for ourselves that these justices haven't misbehaved in office.

This is just a witchhunt.

@brianvastag as Hunter was afforded the full range of due process it's pretty hard to say he was overcharged.

But more importantly, keep in mind that JB has been the head of the administration putting these people away.

Pardon them? He's the one who locked them up!

@fixatedpersonsunit The important thing to keep in mind is that Democrats and Republicans are both put in place by voters.

We keep voting for this.

So it's not so much a horrible system of government, it's a system of government reflecting a population that, well, might be horrible.

It's just where we are as a society, so why would we expect a representative government to be different?

@LovesTha administrations don't have that authority.

@DrALJONES that doesn't make any sense, though, neither in terms of the connection between the encampment and intellectual argument nor in terms of elite intellectual argument versus military deployment.

Anyway, trespassing is not peaceful, and minimally disruptive is still disruptive.

This sounds like a person trying really hard to jump through logical hoops to justify just doing what they want to do and getting mad when finding that they don't actually have the level of privilege they think they do.

@jfrench

Don't forget, it was his dad that was prosecuting him.

Viewed through that lens, it's really hard to stomach all talk about political persecution or political prison.

No, if anything Hunter was getting levels of privilege that would not have been afforded to most people in his position, from judicial discretion through those really great lawyers through prosecutorial cooperation.

So no, it is not probable that he was a political prisoner. His dad tried to tilt the scales in his favor, and even then his behavior could not overcome his privilege, and his dad had to recognize his guilt and hold him accountable for it.

Right up until he didn't.

@rhys

@mike805

Oh no, I would emphasize that it is fundamental to our system of checks and balances that we absolutely do blame public officials for their behavior in office.

Whether one thinks it is excusable or even appropriate is a different question, but we absolutely can and should blame him for it.

@louis

@veedems It's important to keep in mind that Biden was in charge of the branch of government that prosecuted and then gained the conviction for his own son.

And then he said he would absolutely not pardon his son.

We can't excuse what a mess, what an utter mess, Biden was. If he had done a better job as president there's no way Trump would have been reelected.

You say it makes sense. No. No it doesn't. And if the Biden administration had made more sense we wouldn't be in this mess.

Let's call that out. Let's remember this guy as a disaster that he was.

@NewsDesk @AssociatedPress

@louis anyone who thinks it will piss off Republicans doesn't understand them. They are going to be absolutely delighted tomorrow because it will have proven them correct, and they will get to jump with glee feeling like Biden corruption is absolutely proven.

They're going to be very happy about this.

I was so hoping Biden wasn't going to prove them right.

@freeschool You're still thinking in terms of structures that are not sustainable in terms of equilibriums.

A slightly different way of putting that is, you might be thinking in terms of conspiracy theories that are kind of out there.

You mention the state and its roots, but really that's just what people are putting up with, and they're not putting their shoulders behind supporting such a mechanism, supporting such an effort to organize society, because it doesn't work and they see it.

It takes effort on the part of society to organize such a thing, and there just isn't the motivation to incentivize all of these people to put their lives aside and get behind that effort. This is the real world with people who want to see their kids, go to bars, look at art, go bowling, whatever else people want to do. They aren't going to put their effort into propping up that kind of system.

So it doesn't work.

All the talk about finance misses that concrete reality.

If the Fediverse fails to organise itself, the future is #Fascism 

@freeschool What in the world? That argument is extremely weak, hand waving its way to run counter to the normal paths of entropy, as disorganization doesn't give strong centers handles through which to implement fascism.

If we fail the future is anarchy, not fascism.

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@evan The thing about decentralization is that we don't have to settle on a single governance model. That's one of the most important parts.

There's no one size fits all that's right. And with decentralization there doesn't have to be.

@europesays Well that's pretty nonsensical.

Democrats absolutely built an ecosystem of influencers, just look at the influencers that Harris's campaign is citing for evidence that she was out and about visiting in response to criticism that she didn't do enough interviews.

The problem was not that there wasn't an ecosystem of influencers. The problem was that she was just a shit candidate, so the general public saw her and the ecosystem and rejected her.

I'm sorry they chose her. When they chose her I was yelling that it was an awful choice, and it turned out yes, she was an awful choice.

The Democrats absolutely have the ecosystem of influencers. It does no good to pretend otherwise. The problem is the powerful in the party lacked understanding of the population.

@europesays That's the problem, The US hasn't had a really good option in a while.

It doesn't do any good to pretend otherwise. Instead we need to be holding accountable the ones that chose to present crappy options.

It didn't have to be that way. But it was.

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