volkris @volkris@qoto.org
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
Joined Dec 2022
@tend2wobble it would make sense, though
@Ann1944 as usual it comes down to factual disagreements that we face these days. People just don't agree about what is factually true because they are in their own echo chambers.
Trump doesn't know how many people showed up to these rallies. He is surrounded by people who give him false information, and we see that occasionally when a reporter asks him a question and he flat out says he doesn't know what the question is based on.
And it extends to conservatives in general who have a worldview separate from all this stuff that is happening in the country.
Of course that goes both ways, though, with so many of the people showing up at these protests not knowing what's happening in government.
So our society today is really just split among different realities.
@tend2wobble who did he empower?
Follow the money. There's no point having money if that's it.
Why bother?
So no, a lot of people buy into this theory but it makes no sense and it is completely unrealistic.
I don't think that's right. They don't have that level of coherence.
Look at them as a whole, screwing things up for their own ends, and it points to amateurs, reality TV stars who don't know what they're doing.
Nazi? Nah. They're not that organized or else they wouldn't be screwing up in the courts so much.
@Thad this IS his work.
This is literally his job. He is doing his work.
House membership wants to stay in recess to pressure the Senate to get its act together and reopen government.
Johnson is doing his fucking work by supporting that position.
I don't think you understand what his fucking work is. It's all to do what you think he should do, his fucking work is to reflect the position of the entire chamber, and that is to push the legislation that it passed through the Senate.
This is Johnson doing his fucking work. It just sounds like you don't know how the government works.
@Thad this IS his work.
This is literally his job. He is doing his work.
House membership wants to stay in recess to pressure the Senate to get its act together and reopen government.
Johnson is doing his fucking work by supporting that position.
I don't think you understand what his fucking work is. It's all to do what you think he should do, his fucking work is to reflect the position of the entire chamber, and that is to push the legislation that it passed through the Senate.
This is Johnson doing his fucking work. It just sounds like you don't know how the government works.
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I'm still stunned by this. A mainstream voice from the right saying #Trump is killing people that he can't prove are guilty, and that's just okay? #USPolitics
@nberlat.bsky.social Bezos is murdering millions?
That's stupid. It's not up to him.
@octothorpe because tooting is a stupid word that a lot of people want nothing to do with.
FWIW I've never been able to figure Lemmy out, How it works, how to engage with it, etc. And so I have no idea why this thread is showing up in my home feed.
Lemmy is weird.
He is doing his job. The members of the House don't want to be in session right now because of what's happening in the Senate, so Johnson's job is to reflect what the representatives want to do.
This is literally him doing his job. I think a lot of people are confused about what his job is, it is to represent the will of the chamber, and that's exactly what he's doing here.
Regardless of your opinion or my opinion, his job is to do what our elected representatives want done. They don't want to be in session, they want the Senate to figure its stuff out, so Johnson is bound by his job to keep them out of session for the moment so the Senate will figure its stuff out.
@Oma_Trisha_F The ball is in the court of the other chamber right now.
The Senate is gridlocked, and there's nothing for the House to do about it.
Calling the House back into session would do nothing to change that situation. It would probably make it worse, it would encourage the gridlock.
This is a problem for the Senate to resolve, not one for the other chamber to interfere with and make even more complicated.
Absolutely! I agree with you completely!
And that's what I said, #Johnson serves at the pleasure of the House, so these conspiracy theories about him protecting Trump don't really make sense. He owes the House, the entire House, his labor. He doesn't owe it to Trump.
Sounds like you're on my side, my man.
@volkris @SeanCasten You're not arguing in good faith here. Johnson owes the *entire* House his labor.
If his focus was on protecting Trump then he would have pushed for legislation that would have done so. He didn't, he repeatedly refused to do what Trump wanted.
No that conspiracy theory is ridiculous. His actions confirm that he wants to stay Speaker and not get replaced by the House for violating the consensus that they should get government reopen.
The House will come back into session. It makes zero sense to say that he is protecting Trump here, because this will happen.
The Speaker of the House acts on behalf of the entire membership and is subject to replacement at any time should he not reflect consensus in the chamber. His motivation is to reflect the wants of the membership or else he'll be unseated.
That is his motivation.
As for why the House in general doesn't want to come back into session, it is to pressure the Senate to stop blocking government funding and pass the bill that they sent over earlier.
Should the House come back into session it would signal that they aren't serious about their own legislation.
The Epstein file issue is pretty ridiculous, the files might not exist at all, and even if they do exist, it's an executive branch matter in the end. No, that is a stupid distraction if you know how the US government is set up.
It's a conspiracy theory, and not an especially interesting one.
@SeanCasten maybe Mike Johnson is Speaker of the House, and his role in the Congress is larger than an obsession with this one guy.
Maybe he's just not as tunnel focused on your thing; maybe his job is larger than that.
It is.
@realTuckFrumper What results should they reward though?
@bikejourno Trump's a moron and doesn't know anything about what's going on. That's how he ended up getting convicted of felonies, he doesn't understand how the world works, so he ends up liable for prison time.
But he didn't blow $20 million up Milei's ass. The treasury engaged in a currency swap.
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
Joined Dec 2022
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