@MisuseCase @zleap @GossiTheDog More relevantly, by a rich white male of mainstream-adjacent assholiness

@MisuseCase @GossiTheDog

Ok sorry, I stand corrected then

@zleap @GossiTheDog There are plenty of evil white American oligarchs. But Musk and Peter Thiel being white South Africans who long for apartheid…it explains a lot.

@MisuseCase @zleap @GossiTheDog

make even more sense with all Muricans taking them as role models.

@GossiTheDog Anyone know why the Chinese version of tiktok encourages kids to learn to play an instrument while the American version encourages them to destroy school bathrooms?

@kneoghau @GossiTheDog

I think in China they value education, parents value education and teach their kids to do the same, they also teach their kids respect.

Perhaps one of the reasons China brought in controls to limit how long kids can do gaming or social media for, to the west this is because china is seen as oppressive, but maybe the Chinese government also recognise how gaming and social media impact heath and education etc.

This is just an idea, so needs some sort of citations etc.

@zleap @kneoghau @GossiTheDog >> I think in China they value education, parents value education and teach their kids to do the same, they also teach their kids respect.

They have social media age restriction laws in China that compel Douyin to limit its content for younger users.

Have you ever set parental controls on your child’s devices? It’s basically the same thing.

@MisuseCase @kneoghau @GossiTheDog

Good poimt, I think it will be interesting to see what happens with this too.

All porn sites must 'robustly' verify UK user ages by July

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwye3qw7gv7o

We perhaps need to go back to some basics of teaching respect for self and also others.

@zleap @kneoghau @GossiTheDog In the U.S. laws about age verification for porn sites have prompted big porn sites (like Pornhub) to shut down in states where those laws were passed.

The potential liability exposure of violating the law, even if they are doing their best to follow it, is just too much.

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@zleap @kneoghau @GossiTheDog Also any age verification law means not just tracking children but tracking everyone else, too.

Then you have a “papers, please” internet which means people can be surveilled/blackmailed with their browsing history much more easily.

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@MisuseCase @kneoghau @GossiTheDog

Indeed

@MisuseCase @kneoghau @GossiTheDog

Kids have had access to porn for decades, not like we didn't have top shelf mags at school or some floating around usually, we still had page 3 of the sun.

I have read before that naturist magazines such as health and efficiency did the rounds at school.

I still think it is about education, perhaps if we had more and not less naturism, our attitude towards sex and nudity would be different.

@MisuseCase @zleap @kneoghau @GossiTheDog This is an issue only if you can’t setup systems of trust.

@MisuseCase @kneoghau @GossiTheDog

hmm, it will be interesting how this will be enforced by OfCOM.

Given that, with water and sewage
Government has broken the law on sewage, says watchdog

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g38drwmrlo

Unless Ofcom enforce the rules properly and robustly then there won't be the same level of fear as there is in the US.

@zleap @kneoghau @GossiTheDog Ofcom (and the UK government in general) doesn’t really care about the feasibility or trade-offs. They want to score political points or want tech companies and content providers to wave a magic wand and make it work.

@MisuseCase @kneoghau @GossiTheDog

Indeed, in fact I think back in 2023, there was a company who sued the government as they spent a lot of money developing a solution that was no longer needed, due to the way the government handles things (as in badly).

'Porn block' companies seek £3m in damages
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51235675

@zleap @kneoghau @GossiTheDog There is another dimension to this which is: creating the need for age verification/collecting and storing sensitive information on users and what sites they visit is the entire point.

It’s a new business opportunity! Someone will make money helping sites comply with this law.

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@zleap @kneoghau @GossiTheDog Of course the “someone” may be lax when it comes to securing the sensitive personal information they collect.

And/or they may be using it for other things they’re not telling users about, because everyone does that these days.

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@MisuseCase @kneoghau @GossiTheDog

The GDPR should protect people against misuse of data, as for lack of security and data breaches, the GDPR covers that, but it is too late if there is a data breach.

I can see it being a recipe for disaster given how lax security is or can be.

@zleap @kneoghau @GossiTheDog The thing about GDPR is that it curtails data collection by private companies but if governments want to enact pervasive surveillance? That’s totally okay apparently.

@MisuseCase @kneoghau @GossiTheDog

Or in the case of Grooming gangs, hold endless inquiries that will conclude with the bleeding obvions that most normal people could tell them in a few minutes.

@zleap @kneoghau @GossiTheDog Yeah the “grooming gangs” business seems both prurient and like a “crimes of the [ethnic group]” propaganda circus.

@MisuseCase@twit.social @kneoghau@mastodon.social @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social

We know who was invovled, it was the fact that social services, the police didn't want take action as they were scared of being called racist. They blamed victims, which statutory guidence says NOT to do. It was a total screw up from top to bottom and noone was held accountable.

@MisuseCase @kneoghau @GossiTheDog

We know who was invovled, it was the fact that social services, the police didn't want take action as they were scared of being called racist. They blamed victims, which statutory guidence says NOT to do. It was a total screw up from top to bottom and noone was held accountable.

@kneoghau @GossiTheDog Douyin (Chinese TikTok) has age restrictions…which many states in the U.S. are trying to implement! So they tightly control the content available to younger users, like proposed age restrictions in the U.S. are supposed to do.

For the grown-ups on unrestricted Douyin, there’s a whole bunch of silly content, just like there is on TikTok.

@MisuseCase @zleap @GossiTheDog Curiously, in the 1970s while climbing in Italy, I met a really nice white South African. He told us stories about how weird it was to go climbing with a black friend & then not being about to go into a restaurant or bar together. Also about going to anti-apartheid demonstrations (which was not all that safe - he described one guy in charge of the police who said, "if you do not disperse at the count of three, I will have my men charge. Onetwothreecharge.")