What bothers me is that if we kneel, it's incredibly significant, deeply meaningful... 

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, and we're believing in something even if it means risking everything.

If you disagree, then you should know your disagreement is over nothing. There's no meaning, no significance there. Why are you even talking?

I'd like to be consistent. Either it's not meaningful and both the protesters and those protesting the protesters are all doing nothing, just doing it loudly, or else it is significant and both sides should be heard out.

I suspect the reality is more nuanced : it's not the fabric of the flag that's meaningful, it's what it stands for as a symbol of the country, and what standing for the anthem means of doesn't. But this would lead to meaningful conversations, which the public seems adverse to.
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What bothers me is that if we kneel, it's incredibly significant, deeply meaningful... 

@SecondJon Also, cant it just be significant to some or not significant to others? Or even just significant to different people in different ways. I'm not so sure the world needs to be tso black and white as you suggest.

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What bothers me is that if we kneel, it's incredibly significant, deeply meaningful... 

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Yes, that's what I mean. If people actually thought about it, we'd see that some see the flag as representing the principles of America's founding as they understand them: all created equal, with inalienable rights, etc., that we continue to work toward.

Others would say it symbolizes the status quo which shows we have a long way to go to reach those ideals.

Then we could agree that we all seek the same ideals and understand that we may think the other is "wrong" about what they think the flag symbolizes, but could agree on the pursuit of truth, justice, and the American Way as it is supposed to be.

But posturing and virtue signaling seems to be what we're limited to.
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