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I want to thank everyone for the ovwhelming support for our cause, you guys mean a lot.
I have been tthinking a lot lately and thing I have a social solution to this problem. It is something I am going to start doing a writeup on ttoday. I think it will not just thelp QOTO but in general address the unwantant fracturing of the fediverse.
I will share the dettails once my writeup is complete but if anyone is intterested in hearing more or potentially help being a part of it, please reply here or reach out to me in DM.
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@freemo Unwanted? By whom? You, qoto.org, someone else? There's certainly no consensus to whether the formation of factions is unwanted.
@dusnm Unwanted by many.. by my judgement the majority in fact, at least based on how im seeing the conversation go.
@freemo The software (at least Mastodon) is specifically designed to make defederation one of the most useful options in content moderation. How else would we deal with malicious actors? This will inevitably lead to formation of factions as it indeed does. I'd argue it's part of our nature as people, a natural extension of our right for self-determination. To be clear, I have no qualms with people who decide not to use this, it's as much a right to not use it as it is to do.
@dusnm @freemo
"The software (at least Mastodon) is specifically designed to make defederation one of the most useful options in content moderation. "
An interesting claim, i do not know enough to confirm or deny it.
Please educate me: at what percentage of bad actors should an instance be defederated to moderate away the bad content in your opinion and why?
@admitsWrongIfProven @freemo If you're going to use such disingenuous phrasing, why should I bother responding? I don't claim to have all the answers, neither did I sign up to educate anyone. I believe we're all adults, there's no need for pointless squabble.
Now to answer your question. As usual, it depends. There's no exact metric here. If your users are expressing concerns you try to evaluate their concerns and act accordingly.
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I am sorry if my phrasing offended you, that was not my intent.
My intent was to hold back and not claim anything that i cannot argue. I wantet to be clear that i was asking for your opinion.
If i understand your answer correctly, you think that an instance admin should use defederation to the best of their own instances users interests?
Can you confirm this interpretation? I hope so, because i like the idea very much.
@admitsWrongIfProven @freemo I'm not offended, don't worry about it, I'm just tired of people arguing in bad faith, but I see you're probably just used to speaking in a certain manner. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
That said, yes, that's pretty much the gist of my argument here.