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@mngrif @Sphinx It is a lot harder and probably frustrating to learn to drive a standard later in life.

It takes some coordination of movements, and can be learned.

I like standards, you can drive them whichever way you prefer atm, not only the default switching mode pre-programmed in the auto transmission.

They tend to be more fuel efficient too.

@design_RG
i was watching some videos about how to drive a manual transmission car .
could i ask why you called it standards? because it's the standard car long time ago?😀

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@Sphinx

It is a common way to refer to a manual transmission here in North America.

In Europe automatics are a lot less common, and if you must have one for rental will cost a lot more.

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@design_RG @mngrif @Sphinx
> They tend to be more fuel efficient too.

Was the case years/decades ago. No longer true.

@sda

I took an insureance policy on that phrasing, SDA, by using 'tend to be'.

Your statement is more abrangent, are you sure that is the case for all newer automatic transmissions? A torque converter, used inside those units, has an inherent loss of part of the power being transmitted thru it, I believe.

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@design_RG @mngrif @Sphinx

Not so much "abrangent" as concise. I never stated that ALL automatics are more efficient than ALL manuals. Since you seem to dislike concision...

Just saying that with 9 to 12 speed automatics and CVT's becoming more and more common, the old adage about manual advantage over automatic tends to be less true than it was.
Torque converters create heat while engaging. Clutches create heat while engaging. Torque converters switch over to mechanical connection when the computer says it's efficient to do so. Clutches likewise stop producing heat once they have a solid mechanical connection,
I believe.

@sda

Ah, thank you, that was quite nice!

"Inquiring minds demand to know." is one of my mottos. 😃
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