I doubt a single one of the COVID conspiracy theory nutters out there could even answer this quiz, and this is just the basic level.

@freemo I don't care about the vaccine safety any more. I'm upset about being compelled to take it.

@swiley I agree 100% with you, thats an issue. But then again thats just as much the conspirasy theorists fault as it is the governments. If so many people werent out there spreading lies convincing people to put their lives at risk there wouldnt have been the need.

@swiley While I dont agree that it should be forced on anyone, there is a need, and the conspiracy theorists created it.

There are countless people who beleived their lies and arent smart enough to know better who are going to die. It has kept the vaccinations from reaching herd immunity and as such the potential for ever more variants to arise.

So the need is preventing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people that anti-vaxers have caused.. yes there is a "need", I just dont feel that justified forced vaccination no matter how big that need may be

@freemo Israel has nearly 100% vaccination and has no herd immunity.
The virus is not as deadly as people say it is and there are alternative treatments that work better as Japan, Mexico, and India have found.
Pushing the vaccine instead of Ivermectin and antibodies is killing people.

@swiley Wrong, Israel has <80% vaccinated as of the latest figures and herd immunity kicks in above 80% with this virus.. So no they dont have herd immunity yet.

Also remember what I said, herd immunity only works when the entire population reaches it quickly (before variants have a chance to form which accelerates as you vaccinate before reaching herd immunity). We achieved herd immunity with smallpox, for example, because the campaign was global and that was a bit of an easier virus in terms of variants.

@swiley I have no idea what Fauci said, nor do I care what he or any one specific doctor says. I care about the scientific consensus which has herd immunity well above 80%

@freemo Either way, the vaccine is not as effective as Ivermectin and monoclonal antibodies. It's orders of magnitude more deadly than every vaccine we've had, and for younger boys it's more deadly than covid itself.
It's not a good treatment.

@swiley Its many times more effective than Ivermectin (which may be part of a treatment as well, assuming the vaccine was already tried)... you sound like an uninformed dunce honestly, almost no one has died from the vaccine, you are spewing anti-science, anti-fact bullshit. You do you, but you've lost the respect of myself and so many others (who continually keep reporting you) with this anti-intellectual nonsense that even a few minutes of research could easily disprove if you didnt have your head up your ass.

If I sound mad, I am, because aside from just costing hundreds of thousands of people their lives by spreading this bullshit misinformation, you are also now costing people their freedoms as a consequence because people are so desperate to try to find a way to save those lives.

@freemo
>almost no one has died from the vaccine
This is clearly wrong. There are enough deaths from the heart problems alone that they're investigating it.

@swiley thus the word almost.. only 2 people died from blood clots, they investigated it. Of those who got myocarditis so far 0 have died, only 2 wound up in the ICU..

Enough got symptoms of myocarditis to investigate it, true, but 100% of people survived. If anything it demonstrates the safety of vaccines and how even symptoms with no deaths is enough to trigger a full investigation.

@freemo There have been thousands of deaths reported to VARES, a service run by the CDC. Where is your data coming from?

@swiley See this is why you are too uneducated on the subject to open your mouth and why you would fail the above test.

VARES requires doctors, by law, to report any death even those not related to covid, that occur within 14 days after a vaccine, any death at all. The death reports in VAREs does **not** represent death due to the vaccine. These deaths are followed up and investigated to see if any of them wind up being caused by the vaccines and out of those investigations there are very very few deaths.

Please stop saying shit you **think** is true but lack even basic training or education to understand the nonsense coming out of your mouth. If you dont understand a topic dont try to "educate" people with misinformation, educate yourself first.

@freemo Ok.
Regardless, I'm not taking it after that mandate.

@swiley I have no issue with you protesting the mandate, im against it myself. But considering your the reason we have the mandate and the number of people who are dead because of the "game" you played that doesnt really earn you any respect back in my eyes.

If you really cared about the mandate but wanted to do the right thing you'd get the vaccine anonymously. It would serve the same purpose in terms of protesting without having the side effect of killing people.

@freemo @swiley

>considering your the reason we have the mandate and the number of people who are dead because of the "game"
This is the fundamental problem with your logic. You think covid deaths are caused by anything other than covid itself. You think human beings are responsible for the actions of a virus, simply because they insufficiently combat it.
This is communist logic, where not preventing something and causing something are considered rhetorically identical.
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Thats like me handing you a glass of poison and lying by saying "hey here is some water" and then when you die going "thats not my fault, thats communist logic. The only thing that killed him is the poison itself".

When you lie and people believe your lies and that results in their death, yes, you have a hand to play in that as far as I'm concerned.

@swiley

@freemo @swiley
>Thats like me handing you a glass of poison and lying by saying "hey here is some water" and then when you die
Who is handing you a glass of poison in this metaphor? Who is lying?
@freemo @swiley You keep alluding to "lies" and "misinformation" but never say what they are.

@Eris

I already explicitly gave one example. The lie that the VARES confirms thousands of vaccine deaths, which is explicitly false.

@swiley

@freemo @swiley
>The lie that the VARES confirms thousands of vaccine deaths, which is explicitly false.
That's not a lie. First of all, ev eryone who says it actually believes it, which makes them at worst wrong, not lying.
Second, it's true by the standards of statistical analysis that has been setup for COVID. If you want to call this a lie, you have to also call 99% of covid cases lies.
@freemo @Eris @swiley Holy shit this is a hilariously wrong take. Holy fuck my dude, calm down and get it together.
@D00B @Eris @freemo @swiley yes what? Literally anyone can make a report on VAERS, they are not necessarily accurate or factual.
@bot @Eris @freemo @swiley we are even though you're a double nigger side salad.
@D00B @Eris @freemo @swiley don’t know why you’re being mean to me, but all right.
@bot @Eris @freemo @swiley fine you're a single nigger main course meal you paid too much for. Better?
@bot @D00B @freemo @swiley
>don’t know why you’re being mean to me
Because you're a dumb cunt.
@Eris @D00B @freemo @swiley everything I have said in this thread is factual and verifiable. You just don't like that I'm criticising your stupid opinions.
@bot @D00B @freemo @swiley
>You just don't like that I'm criticising your stupid opinions.
You're getting close.
You don't criticize my opinions, you criticize *me.*
That's gay and oversocialized reddit behavior.
Treat people like anons, pay no attention to them as people, only as posts.
@Eris @D00B @freemo @swiley literally the opposite is true. I criticised your dumb logic and uninformed opinion, and then you began calling me mean names for no reason.
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