@freemo from what I understand
Just because you are vaccinated does not mean you can't host the virus and pass it on to others.
Vaccination simply helps the body build the immune system by being presented with an inert version of the virus, as far as I understand the body can then produce antibodies that recognise the spike proteins.
The body can then recognise the virus and, hopefully produce the correct response.
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When vaccines work they are usually great at stopping the spread. For the original strain of covid, for example, it both stopped symptoms **and** stopped the spread.
The new variants however (such as delta, the most prevalent one, and omicron) it is either completely in effective or significantly less effective (hard to draw firm conclusions off what studies we have). The point is, its not effective at stopping the spread because the spike protein it encodes for is different in the variants and thus the antibodies are ineffective to a significant degree (if not completely).
@freemo @khaosgrille Ah ok thanks, that clears a few things up.
I still think it is worth wearing a mask most of the time anyway, esp in crowded places such as shops etc.
yea masks im not sure about. The data in them are questionable in either direction so we can only speculate about how or if they are effective.
I think if you are very strict in how you use them they probably help, but most people, almost no one, handles mask with the level of rigor needed for them to be effective.
Indeed, the ones I wear are just basic masks, so slip down, so i need to touch them to reset to the right place.
Apparently we need to wear one in a cinema, not sure if this is just in the lobby area or also in where the movie is being played.
ofc it is not randomised but it is hard to do that with a pandemic disease
Ok then ill have to read, my cursory glance didnt seem to see anything about face touching in their model.
Though regardless if its non-randomized observational study it still has the underlying issue of confounding and thus the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. But ill give it a full read to give a more proper answer
At a cursory glance i took leakage to mean particles that escape out of the side. Not the effects of people taking off their mask and touching it and their face constantly.
