A lot of people on the "dark fedi" side stay because even though it isn't as fun, fedi stills offers them something to say. Unlike mastodon which offers you nothing at all to spend your time, not even talk and top of that it attacks you over the most petty and silly things.
Mastodon hates you having fun
there was an entire section of the article devoted to that point.
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Seems most of the fediverse have dug their feet in on that already. Sadly the freespeech instances have done everything in their power to convince people not to adopt that side of the fence.
Ideas like fault is pointless. Its not about who is to blame and who is to not.
The fact of the matter is the freespeech section of the fediverse has went out of their way to attack and abuse people who federate with them to the point that it is very hard to take a freespeech stance and still be appealing to most people.
Its not about that... users can do the blocking themselves (and for now thats how we do it)... but it becomes a full time job for most of our users blocking instances on their own that, without doing so, means the system is barely usable.
Yes, and where there are 20 new domains a day that you need to mute and people are hoping instances and bringing up small one-user domains those 3 seconds become a big load.. especially when most of us wont block a domain the moment a single person throws a fit. Its usually only after several incidents someone decides to block. So thats a lot of noise per-domain someone must endure before they silence that one domain, one domain among a great many needing blocking for some.
>Yes, and where there are 20 new domains a day that you need to mute
That is patently false. This is absolutely not happening. You're making up a story wholesale to justify being a bitch who blocks everything
There is no weird harassment campaign where people continually make up new domain and instance to just harass and be mean to people. I have never seen this happens
It probably doesnt happen to you because you are one of the trolls, or at least, close enough to them (you arent as bad as most which is why i never blocked you)... But generally the people who dont participate in the trolling, particularly as a server, are the ones targeted.
I expiernce this a few times a week personally and as an admin have had quite a few of my users complain about the same problem.
I want to see within the next 7 days a receipt of all the domains you've blocked and the reason you are blocking them, coming from you and not from a 3rd party source
You can figure that for yourself by going through my feed if you really care to. That isnt an exercise I need to invest time in since I dont see much value coming from that exercise.
If I actually cared about proving my point that would be a good way to do it. I just dont have the energy to care enough to go through all that.
If you'd like I can start tagging you when dogpiles kick in so you can see them though if you really care.
So, no proof then, the usual "it's not my job to teach you bigot" and etc etc.
And how much anyone is willing to bet that the dogpilling comes from horribly bad political take that you personally allow and the user is then screaming "sealioning"?
I have no issue with people dogpiling if its directly related to the topic, even if they are calling someone an idiot.
We are talking about dog piling that usually has nothing constructive to say and is just word salad of insults most of the time.
If you experienced inconveniences is because you went out of your way to become hated, some are hated because of the power they wield like graf or moon, but you're hated because you're a dumb idiot
Nobody here told you to defend rapists from due punishment or talk about the time you fisted a woman without consent
@freemo I have to disagree with you there. It takes very little time and effort to curate your own TL. I interact a lot with free speech instances and I don't get all that many racist or sexist posts. Certainly not enough to make curating my TL a full-time job. On most occasions I don't even care to block or mute because I know I won't be seeing those accounts again.
If you're referring to people like the sandwich guy, he was a very special case, fortunately.
Yup, many of our users would agree with you, partly because our server policies would attract people who feel the way you do. That said many have had the opposite opinion as you.. its a mixed bag. I think it largely depends on your opinions and ideology, yours are probably less of a target than others.
@freemo In any case, I think your general point (that free speech instances are frowned upon due to certain people being edgy) was true in the past, but not so much today. I believe those who came in the Twitter migrations wanted a place where they could feel relaxed and be themselves, and instead got a place full of ultrasensitive vigilantes.
I think the tables have turned and free speech has become popular again (a necessity, even), because a lot of people feel constrained by all those “unwritten rules” mentioned in the article @Moon linked to.
Im not sure if i agree on the resurgence of free speech.. but otherwise I agree. the Fediverse was ultra-sensative... some people who wanted more relaxed moderation moved in, they got attacked and "cancelled".. this in turn cause them to lash out by trolling, viscious cycle continues.
There's a big issue of an endless cycle of big tech abuse because people don't jump in because of the "bad free speech" which then would make that the tables never actually turns, which why I'm rather critical on the thing
I used to be a notorious shitposter in some IRC circles years ago haha.
What we need is a shift from from big tech and have people to be encouraged to explore the web again. Have a big web again with cool personal websites again, etc
The be yourself social media culture (or at least the impression of it as Tumblr was giving off despite being a facade) has given way to neopuritanism, which is being fought with other forms of it. A website protesting bad internet laws was saying that they should be blocked for the very same thing the other side wanted to pass those bills for. Not any other reason, but literally that.
The fedi thrives in spite of this blocklisting, not because of it, just because Twitter is so much worse unless you're a firstname lastname boring NPC who is trying to get those like/retweet numbuhs up.
It's now over shit like what art is allowed to be posted online. This can be seen online, with shit like the Zamii070 situation (artist harassed for drawing characters wrong) giving way to the endless DNI posting, faux morals/puritanism over NSFW art, and arguments that boil down to a mix of "stop drawing what I don't like" and "drawings have rights".
This, this is why Japanese fedi instances are booming, and why some instances like varis are so militant about going after those who they see as bullying another JP artist into wiping his gallery and going dark, which keeps happening on Twitter. No seriously, it seems like Twitter has unreal amounts of drama in the art sphere.
