@Moon
A lot of people on the "dark fedi" side stay because even though it isn't as fun, fedi stills offers them something to say. Unlike mastodon which offers you nothing at all to spend your time, not even talk and top of that it attacks you over the most petty and silly things.

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@tomey @McMongoose @Moon A lot of these people are really going to have to make a decision at this point: Accept free speech and block/mute people yourself like an adult, or be forced to eat your vegetable in the SJW Internet or be stuck on big tech forever

@coolboymew

Seems most of the fediverse have dug their feet in on that already. Sadly the freespeech instances have done everything in their power to convince people not to adopt that side of the fence.

@McMongoose @Moon @tomey

@freemo @coolboymew @McMongoose @tomey I am not responsible for idiots being against free speech, a historically illiterate position.

@Moon

Ideas like fault is pointless. Its not about who is to blame and who is to not.

The fact of the matter is the freespeech section of the fediverse has went out of their way to attack and abuse people who federate with them to the point that it is very hard to take a freespeech stance and still be appealing to most people.

@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey

@freemo @Moon @McMongoose @tomey "Please save us daddy big tech, we're 30 years old babies who can't think for ourselves and will absolutely take a position that will forsake us all to hell because bad words or something"

@coolboymew

Its not about that... users can do the blocking themselves (and for now thats how we do it)... but it becomes a full time job for most of our users blocking instances on their own that, without doing so, means the system is barely usable.

@McMongoose @Moon @tomey

@freemo I have to disagree with you there. It takes very little time and effort to curate your own TL. I interact a lot with free speech instances and I don't get all that many racist or sexist posts. Certainly not enough to make curating my TL a full-time job. On most occasions I don't even care to block or mute because I know I won't be seeing those accounts again.

If you're referring to people like the sandwich guy, he was a very special case, fortunately.

@coolboymew @McMongoose @Moon @tomey

@josemanuel

Yup, many of our users would agree with you, partly because our server policies would attract people who feel the way you do. That said many have had the opposite opinion as you.. its a mixed bag. I think it largely depends on your opinions and ideology, yours are probably less of a target than others.

@coolboymew @McMongoose @Moon @tomey

@freemo In any case, I think your general point (that free speech instances are frowned upon due to certain people being edgy) was true in the past, but not so much today. I believe those who came in the Twitter migrations wanted a place where they could feel relaxed and be themselves, and instead got a place full of ultrasensitive vigilantes.

I think the tables have turned and free speech has become popular again (a necessity, even), because a lot of people feel constrained by all those “unwritten rules” mentioned in the article @Moon linked to.

@coolboymew @McMongoose @tomey

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@josemanuel

Im not sure if i agree on the resurgence of free speech.. but otherwise I agree. the Fediverse was ultra-sensative... some people who wanted more relaxed moderation moved in, they got attacked and "cancelled".. this in turn cause them to lash out by trolling, viscious cycle continues.

@Moon @coolboymew @McMongoose @tomey

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