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@thor you certainly arent wrong that spending on things that make you mentally healthy and happy are neccesary too.. Im not claiming you shouldnt be spending on anything... My only point is, cutting back on those small every day expenses absolutely is a mentality and practice needed to get out of poverty.
small every day expenses
There's the issue that often buying in bulk (or larger sizes in general) can be cheaper in the longer term.
It's one of the traps of poverty, with the stupid example being that one could buy a 500g box of cookies that last him a week for 10€, or a 1Kg box for 17€ that lasts him twice that.
Optimizing for the short term is suboptimal
While your right, the whole buying in bulk could be a potential trap of poverty.. its not really a good excuse... I dont know too many who got out of poverty by buying in bulk.. i mean yea sure once your able it might be an ok move to save a few pennies... but its not nearly as important as just penny pinching.
@freemo @moffintosh i have absolutely no faith that penny pinching gets you out of poverty
By itself it will only get you so far...
But thats the problem.. usually the people who dont take advice from people who got out of poverty because "they dont believe it" are the people who stay in poverty. But iu wont judge you for choosing what you feel is right for you.
@freemo @moffintosh these people who offer self-help advice never offer evidence except for their own story, which is what worked for them.
@freemo @moffintosh i will take an opportunity if offered, but i'm seeing advice, which is mostly useless. i have heard most of it before, and i have attempted to apply it. it did not work for me.
I can certainly understand that... I dont know your particular circumstances and im not saying its as simple as following advice either... its very circumstantial.
When ive helped people it was never just some one time adivce and then i come back and their doing grerat.... It was always a pretty large and somewhat personal commitment... well not always, but often.
Most of the people helped were at rock bottom after a lifetime of poverty. I usually offer very strict rules designed around their success and ont he condition that they get free room and board (and free education in some cases) should they stick to the rules. Since the alternative was literally homelessnes it usually was a strong enough deterrant they would take the offer.
All these people needed to trust me to do that though, and while oddly enough some of these people were new friends (in two cases I took them in after only knowing them a month or two).. it doesnt really play out too well with strangers considering the dynamic being asked of.
But a great many of them in the end moved out and to this day have a very successful career, their own home, and in some cases families.
@freemo @thor @moffintosh That's a real investment. It would be nice to see more people do this.
I wish more people did... Sadly with the whole anti-rich people movement we have lately this is farther away as a common practice not closer. When people with money are constantly treated as evil, unfortunately, it makes people far less willing to want to help or care about eachother.
@freemo @thor @moffintosh It's really quite impressive how effective misdirection can be.
