> the best part is you can just see the feminist studies diversity hire woman they hired to write this script
> "make sure you include the core values"
> "yes xir"
I hate the pronouns including the usage of "They" it's painful to say and write, but i recognize the pain from misgendering of people with gender dysphoria
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.
Men are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed men to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even trannies who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a man. Your bone structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected axe wound.
You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably male.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
@cosmo @numberonedonaldtrumpfan @borzoi @JSDorn
Stop being horny and desperate for an attention~
@numberonedonaldtrumpfan @JSDorn @borzoi @cosmo
> some of you care way too much tbh fam
it's not too much care.. it's basic human decency to recognize gender dysphoria
>enabling the mentally ill to mutilate their body
>majority regret it and kill themselves
Very compassionate bro.
How about you stop being a fag, a shill, and enabler for the medical industry that promotes and profits enormously from this antisocial and destructive shit.
@Elfman @numberonedonaldtrumpfan @borzoi @cosmo @JSDorn
Feel free to propose a better solution until then this is the best we can do.
Anti-psychotics, going to the gym, and finding Jesus are all better solutions to gender dysphoria than permanent self-mutilation and legally enforced gaslighting.
If you started hanging rapists and stopped immigration maybe women wouldn't feel the need to cut their boobs off to avoid being a target. Making porn illegal would do more for the entire populations mental health than any amount of gender affirmation and subsidised implants.
I think you entirely misread my initial post.
Pro trans position on addressing dysphoria:
> People should be on hormonal medications permanently with horrific consequences for hormonal systems, bone density, etc
> People should be surgically castrated
> People should be surgically mutilated
> The rest of society should pretend that these people are the gender they cosplay as (gaslight everybody into compliance - "trans women are real women" is literally not true)
Anti trans position on addressing dysphoria:
> Try exercise, anti-psychotic medication, therapy or personal growth into faith
> Nobody should have to participate in your delusion
I hope that clears things up.
@TinyFern @numberonedonaldtrumpfan @borzoi @cosmo @Elfman @JSDorn
> People should be on hormonal medications permanently with horrific consequences for hormonal systems, bone density, etc
Do you have any credible research on that?
> People should be surgically castrated
> People should be surgically mutilated
yes that's the current treatment for gender dysphoria
> The rest of society should pretend that these people are the gender they cosplay as (gaslight everybody into compliance - "trans women are real women" is literally not true)
Using an uncomfortable pronoun to people with gender dysphoria inflicts a mental pain on them.. I am not aware of any alternative solution to that and personally i don't mind using the pronoun on which they look i just really hate `they/them` and `xe/xhe` and shit alike.
> Try exercise
i am not against that as i am not aware of a case where exercise wouldn't have a positive effect on the overall health.
> anti-psychotic medication, therapy or personal growth into faith
Agree that this feels unethical
> Nobody should have to participate in your delusion
i agree that none should be forced into a certain behavior what i argue for is for them to understand why is that expected from them so that they can make an informed decision.
You know the pro trans stuff is entirely propaganda because nobody wants to treat other mental illnesses that way.
Oh this person is suicidal, I guess they just ~identify as a dead person~ and we need to help them transition lol.
Oh this person is anorexic, we need to ~respect their view of themselves as a fat person~ and help them lose weight through liposuction until they're at their ideal body shape (i.e. starved to death)
Oh this person has Munchausen syndrome, we should treat all their imagined illnesses because we can't possibly contradict their ~profound understanding of themselves~ so I guess we give them chemo and antibiotics until they die of complications.
It's not about respecting trans people, it's about gaslighting you until you agree that objective reality is less important than their feelings.
@TinyFern @numberonedonaldtrumpfan @borzoi @cosmo @Elfman @JSDorn
Why is it unethical to continue with the current treatment for gender dysphoria by giving the affected people the option of a reconstructive surgery if it enables them to have a close to normal life instead of being locked up in a mental hospital?
> Oh this person is anorexic, we need to ~respect their view of themselves as a fat person~ and help them lose weight through liposuction until they're at their ideal body shape (i.e. starved to death)
I don't have a political opinion on that subject and i highly doubt that any licensed surgeon would proceed with liposuction on a malnurished patient (hypocratic oath).
> Oh this person has Munchausen syndrome, we should treat all their imagined illnesses because we can't possibly contradict their ~profound understanding of themselves~ so I guess we give them chemo and antibiotics until they die of complications.
I am not against giving Munchausen patient sugar pills and making them feel like we are curing the disease that they are convinced that they do e.g. instead of chemo giving them a ringer with laxative and things to make them feel bad or even other medication so that they temporarely lose hair and feel like they are going through a chemo on an imaginary cancer.
Like why would i be against it? It seems to have a major positive impact on their mental health that enables them to manage it..
> It's not about respecting trans people, it's about gaslighting you until you agree that objective reality is less important than their feelings.
Like if a patient with a mental disorder prefers to live in their own bubble with a distorted reality to manage their disease than why should I not support it assuming that it has a positive effect on their mental health.
Adverse effects on bone mineralization and compromised fertility are potential risks of pubertal suppression in gender dysphoric youth treated with GnRH agonists.[11][14] Additionally, genital tissue in transgender women may not be optimal for potential vaginoplasty later in life due to underdevelopment of the penis.[15]
Research on the long term effects on brain development is limited.[16][17]
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty_blocker
Cross sex hormones on MTF produce heart problems, liver problems, gallstones, kidney problems, upper GI bleeding, often irreversible fertility problems.
journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0004563215587763
Cross sex hormones on FTM produce cysts that mimic Poly Cystic Ovarian Syndrome, deformed clit, increase in stroke risk, liver dysfunction, uterus atrophy requiring a hysterectomy (recommended that all FTM get a hysterectomy after two years of hormones because it's so common, which is permanent infertility, irreversible)
@TinyFern @numberonedonaldtrumpfan @borzoi @cosmo @Elfman @JSDorn
I read the references and flagged the provided article as "missing informations" as the references provided e.g. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/in-depth/pubertal-blockers/art-20459075 dependent party that fails to establish credibility and methods to verify their claims.
The research that you linked (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0004563215587763) concludes:
> Cross-sex hormone therapy is integral to the treatment of the majority of people with gender dysphoria and is effective in inducing the secondary sexual characteristics of the person’s desired gender. Cross-gender sex steroid replacement can be associated with side-effects, for transwomen thromboembolism and for transmen an adverse lipid profile but provide psychological benefit to the individual being treated. With careful monitoring and the use of sex steroid preparations with more physiological properties, these therapies appear to be safe in the longer term.
and from reading the rest of the references i can't in clear mind conclude that the provided treatment is harmful or safe in a long run due to the lack of information.
@hydramacready @numberonedonaldtrumpfan @borzoi @cosmo @Elfman @JSDorn @TinyFern
i would say that about any religion, but i recognize that religion is critical in maintaining a society atm
@hydramacready @numberonedonaldtrumpfan @borzoi @cosmo @Elfman @JSDorn @TinyFern
I am not aware of any problem that affects me in terms of judaism
@hydramacready @numberonedonaldtrumpfan @borzoi @cosmo @Elfman @JSDorn @TinyFern
is that even a thing? Or like does judaism somehow affect you negatively ?
>I am not aware of any problem that affects me in terms of judaism
You can't be serious lol
>it's basic human decency to recognize gender dysphoria
No, it's enabling psychopathic degenerate behavior. It's the exact opposite of human decency.
They don't need to be a "real women" per your definition to treat gender dysphoria
if you are capable of empathy then imagine being perma-depressed and in mental pain because of the way your body looks that's what gender dysphoria does to you and it can happen to anyone anytime.
So the reconstruction surgery one way of treating it the other is recognition by the society..
Like why would you want someone to kill themselves because you are too stupid to understand their condition? It's same as if you lost a leg and people were making fun of you all the time for it.
