Right wing people are deotologists. Left wing people are utilitarians. Someone argue against this because I dont see where its wrong
@valleyforge That really depends on how you define "left" and "right."
The Nazis were pretty utilitarian IMO so that would make them "extreme left."
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Except that the left has never in any accepted text been defined as "utilitarian" that I am aware of. Its really not even all that helpful to refer to "the left" since there are different lefts with some pretty different definitions.
@freemo @valleyforge Exactly, the "left" vs "right" thing really isn't that interesting anyway, much more interesting is the authoritarian vs libertarian spectrum.
I wouldnt say all that left vs right can be very interesting. It is just important to be specific about what left/right you are refering to (libertarian vs authoritarian are rarely considered to be definitions of left and right).
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>(libertarian vs authoritarian are rarely considered to be definitions of left and right).
Yes, it's often orthogonal. "Left vs right" is mostly a distraction, it matters a lot less if you're not forcing your ideas on everyone.
You can not not force your ideas on someone really. Either I can make a law/right that tries to remedy social inequalities (that is forcing something on people), or I can make a law/right for those inequalities to be allowed, and thus forcing the inequalities on the group.
Either way the government needs to make a decision. If the decision you side with happens to look like freedom to you, great, but it wont to the other side, whatever that is. Lack of affirmative action looks like systemic racism and oppression of the majority on the minority. Affirmative action on the other hand looks like favoritism of minorities from the other end. Both feel the other is "forcing" something on them.
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Obviously you can't do without regulation entirely, but every time you use it you divide people.
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From my personal stance I dont entierly disagree. I feel regulation should be minimized as much as possible. But my point is even to enforce an unregulated system requires that to be forced on people otherwise you have monopolies grow that "regulate" the system harmfully in their favor which is just as much a type of control as if the government did it.
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