veganism, crime, lifehack, misinformation 

Remember, stealing food means you don't support the whole chain of people that worked towards getting it where it was.

This also means that any nonvegan food becomes vegan when stolen.

veganism, crime, lifehack, misinformation 

@bonifartius
* veganism = (hurting animals = bad)
* giving resources to people doing bad things = bad
* taking resources from people doing bad things = good
* stealing = taking resources
* veganism = (stealing from people hurting animals = good)

Infallible logic.

@timorl you still create demand with it by consuming the product, you steal from only the last part of the chain.

@bonifartius Not really, the cost propagates over the chain about as well as payment if everyone behaves rationally (in the economics sense). The higher the ratio of stolen to bought nonvegan food, the less money the victim of the theft should be willing to pay for that produce. Every unit has a lower expected value if you consider the higher probability of it getting stolen.

Feels weird discussing over essentially a shitpost.

@timorl i assume in reality we'd get different measures. just like with expensive booze being in locked, surveilled cabinets now.

i think it's much more effective to lower the prices of ethical food by increased consumption than raising the price of the other stuff by sabotaging the supply.

regarding shitpostiness: i've seen much worse ideas displayed as true convictions ;)

@bonifartius Well, yeah, it is technically vegan for the reasons I explained above, but obviously it's not really a good idea because of the different measures you mention as well as various effects of increasing crime rates etc.

This was supposed to mostly be a parody of the "idiot utilitarian" arguments, the "shouldn't you rob banks and give the swag to AMF?" ones that completely ignore externalities.

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